“Hurty words”. FFS. That’s not what I said at all.
It’s about saying the truth, not deliberately obfuscating and using emotive expressions to get a reaction. It’s the absolute opposite of a “factual statement of affairs”, and also not an honest conversation. Facts, not emotions; reality, not vague half-truths (or lies).
Posted By: APB on June 3rd 2026 at 21:15:22
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- Good representation of where public spending goes on this website (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 3, 12:13:32
- Not nearly enough on public sector pensions. (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorceee, Jun 3, 17:30:25
- Haha rage baiting gold 🏆 (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 18:49:10
- That is genuinely interesting and shows the real challenges, and why (General Chat) - megson, Jun 3, 14:07:14
- reading below , and a lot of posts are about pensioners (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 3, 13:41:28
- I don't think it will be ours though will it. It's just not sustainable (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 3, 13:58:08
- I blame the pensioners (n/m) (General Chat) - Klobo04, Jun 3, 12:33:52
- Was just about to say they’re a massive issue (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 3, 12:40:20
- Prison abolition? (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 3, 13:11:00
- Hehe (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Jun 3, 20:43:33
- Prison abolition? (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 3, 13:11:00
- Was just about to say they’re a massive issue (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 3, 12:40:20
- Public spending is going on this website? (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 3, 12:29:57
- under Welfare (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jun 3, 12:31:38
- Yes it makes you think (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 12:27:11
- Ban it all and scrap the free NHS etc 🇺🇸 (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Jun 3, 18:16:51
- yup, and yet those pensioners make up the core Reform voter base (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 12:44:51
- Triple lock needs to go (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 13:05:50
- i would do this (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Jun 3, 13:27:37
- Re: solar and renewables (General Chat) - APB, Jun 3, 15:52:06
- its huge. I'm CFO of a company in the renewable energy sector (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Jun 3, 17:01:41
- For some reason I read that with the headvoice of Billy Bleach from The Fast Show (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jun 3, 14:29:49
- Motability is such a red herring (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 3, 14:18:49
- Of course he didn't report her. She's not Johnny Foreigner. (n/m) (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Jun 3, 14:27:56
- urm i actually did (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Jun 3, 14:58:14
- What did she say was wrong with her? (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 3, 15:45:31
- urm i actually did (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Jun 3, 14:58:14
- Of course he didn't report her. She's not Johnny Foreigner. (n/m) (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Jun 3, 14:27:56
- New drilling in the North Sea won't make a difference: (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 3, 13:38:59
- everybody says it will be traded globally ... why (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 3, 15:06:29
- Because (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 16:30:14
- Well I guess the options are (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 3, 16:07:48
- Probably not in a hurry (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Jun 3, 15:53:33
- interesting, will have a look. If traded globally surely that's more income for the gov (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Jun 3, 13:41:50
- Well maxing out existing fields could increase govt tax revenues (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 3, 16:03:24
- everybody says it will be traded globally ... why (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 3, 15:06:29
- So you'd deprive any johnny-foreigner of benefits (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Jun 3, 13:38:36
- Yes I would absolutely deprive Johnny Foreigner from benefits (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 13:55:44
- The majority of immigrants have no recourse to public funds. (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Jun 3, 18:15:45
- “The idea of importing people from overseas” (General Chat) - APB, Jun 3, 15:58:37
- It’s a factual statement of affairs (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 16:15:38
- “Hurty words”. FFS. That’s not what I said at all. (General Chat) - APB, Jun 3, 21:15:22
- Glad you are no longer a teacher (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 21:41:24
- Because I believe in the truth? Wow. (General Chat) - APB, Jun 3, 21:46:59
- Your idea of the truth (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 22:04:21
- Good grief (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Jun 3, 22:30:52
- Your idea of the truth (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 22:04:21
- Because I believe in the truth? Wow. (General Chat) - APB, Jun 3, 21:46:59
- Glad you are no longer a teacher (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 21:41:24
- “Hurty words”. FFS. That’s not what I said at all. (General Chat) - APB, Jun 3, 21:15:22
- It’s a factual statement of affairs (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 16:15:38
- British people don’t want to wipe arses or pick fruit and veg (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 3, 15:48:41
- This is true and it’s part of a much bigger conversation (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 16:18:53
- "The benefits system is now a lifestyle choice for many Brits" (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 16:31:57
- Are you really asking this question? (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 16:38:50
- Yes. What's the answer? (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 16:51:54
- Consider me unsurprised that you aren't basing it on any evidence (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 17:41:36
- I will provide personal experience (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 18:38:07
- so would you say that for your sister in law it's a lifestyle choice? (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 20:36:23
- It’s a lifestyle choice and a financial choice (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 20:55:16
- so would you say that for your sister in law it's a lifestyle choice? (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 20:36:23
- I will provide personal experience (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 18:38:07
- Keir Starmer seems to think so, but what does he know? (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 3, 17:17:35
- What did he actually say? (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 17:30:14
- You tend to think he's wrong on most other things tbf (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 3, 17:20:51
- Well, it would be a curious thing for the PM to get so very wrong, no? (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 3, 17:30:10
- To be fair he does say "some" (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 3, 17:32:27
- No, that's not a quote from the article (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 17:33:47
- It's behind a Times paywall, but this from ChatGPT (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 3, 17:42:37
- right. So no evidence so far that he said benefits are a lifestyle choice for many Brits (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 17:47:37
- I don't have access to the article, which was in the Times (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 3, 18:48:43
- So no evidence (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 20:39:49
- 🤦♂️ (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 3, 21:00:38
- Anecdotal “evidence” isn’t enough to form a base for government policy (General Chat) - APB, Jun 3, 21:44:34
- For gods sake, this is a message board, not a parliamentary committee (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 3, 22:21:37
- I do agree with you (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 3, 22:35:27
- .... (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 3, 22:28:41
- Yeah, whatever (General Chat) - APB, Jun 3, 22:34:10
- I do think many are rather naive about things (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 3, 22:42:59
- Yeah, whatever (General Chat) - APB, Jun 3, 22:34:10
- For gods sake, this is a message board, not a parliamentary committee (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 3, 22:21:37
- Anecdotal “evidence” isn’t enough to form a base for government policy (General Chat) - APB, Jun 3, 21:44:34
- 🤦♂️ (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 3, 21:00:38
- So no evidence (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 20:39:49
- Why is the welfare bill increasing so rapidly? (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 18:43:29
- I'd need to spend time looking at the data. but I would guess it's (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 20:38:01
- Agree an ageing population is a (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 20:56:19
- a major contributor (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 20:57:42
- Agree an ageing population is a (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 20:56:19
- I'd need to spend time looking at the data. but I would guess it's (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 20:38:01
- I don't have access to the article, which was in the Times (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 3, 18:48:43
- right. So no evidence so far that he said benefits are a lifestyle choice for many Brits (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 17:47:37
- It's behind a Times paywall, but this from ChatGPT (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 3, 17:42:37
- No, that's not a quote from the article (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 17:33:47
- What did he say? (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 17:30:30
- To be fair he does say "some" (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 3, 17:32:27
- Well, it would be a curious thing for the PM to get so very wrong, no? (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 3, 17:30:10
- Consider me unsurprised that you aren't basing it on any evidence (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 17:41:36
- I asked the Office for National Statistics (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 3, 16:46:17
- Yes. What's the answer? (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 16:51:54
- Are you really asking this question? (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 16:38:50
- "The benefits system is now a lifestyle choice for many Brits" (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 16:31:57
- This is true and it’s part of a much bigger conversation (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 16:18:53
- not my relative. and if you see I was criticising her and the scheme. (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Jun 3, 13:40:45
- Yes I would absolutely deprive Johnny Foreigner from benefits (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 13:55:44
- Re: solar and renewables (General Chat) - APB, Jun 3, 15:52:06
- i would do this (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Jun 3, 13:27:37
- Triple lock needs to go (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 3, 13:05:50
- Too many old people (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 3, 12:37:17
- C.f. Logan's Run (n/m) (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Jun 3, 13:24:58
- bring in compulsory executions at 70 years old. You get 2 years of fun then off you go (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Jun 3, 12:54:10
- what about old people who worked, saved and can pay their way? (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 3, 13:30:21
- tough (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 3, 15:12:49
- they'll cost the NHS though. Maybe I would consider it if they pay for private healthcare (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Jun 3, 13:32:02
- what about old people who worked, saved and can pay their way? (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 3, 13:30:21
- Indeed - "benefits" paid to working age people are basically just subsidies to businesses (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 3, 12:48:33
- Agreed, a ridiculous situation (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 3, 20:22:47
- Maybe this is explains the plan. Destroy the NHS, people stop living as long, (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Jun 3, 12:45:17
- says grandad (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, Jun 3, 12:40:20
- Haha, and I took my NHS pension early (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 3, 12:59:20
- This is a key problem (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 3, 12:40:02
- Stop the pensioners (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 3, 12:48:30
- Not nearly enough on public sector pensions. (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorceee, Jun 3, 17:30:25
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