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No, the protests started in 1994/5. The red card protest was against Liverpool: before we'd gone down. Protests against him selling our best players, you say? What exactly is it that we've done over the past two transfer windows?

It will always be a total mystery to me that so many Norwich fans were so hostile to Chase almost throughout his time at the club, despite him overseeing by far the most successful era in our history... while so few Norwich fans have been anything other than grateful to Delia, despite her more than two decades in charge having been mostly unsuccessful. Norwich fans, in fact, were more angry towards Nigel Worthington and Chris Hughton than we've ever been towards Delia and the board. Quite remarkable.

This, though, unless I've totally misunderstood you, is a very odd comment: "A deluded person would believe that change would equate to success and that no change equates to failure by their own measure".

Nope. Where we are right now is because of the lack of resources of our owners. That lack of resources has prevented us from ever establishing ourselves in the Prem in over two decades under their watch; and now, it's preventing us from challenging in this league too.

I don't think that 'change equates to success' - it'd depend entirely on what that change involved. I do think, and the evidence is very much on my side, that in this league now, no change equals no chance.

One other thing. If you could tell me when all those protesting against Chase were told "you find us another owner then!", I'd be most grateful. The double standards are almost unbelievable.

Posted By: thebigfeller on September 3rd 2018 at 02:18:00

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PM: APB (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Sep 3, 02:18:00
- Chase v Delia. "a total mystery to me" (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Sep 3, 10:38:33
  - I'm perfectly aware of all of that, thanks. I've read all the same stuff as you (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Sep 3, 10:48:33
    - if you are aware of the facts (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Sep 3, 11:18:11
    - "wasn't the club priced at a preposterous 56m not so long ago?" (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 3, 11:07:12
- Under Delia, we've never really sold players to our rivals. (NCFC) - lurd, Sep 3, 09:31:35
  - Is that relevant though? (NCFC) - Men without hats, Sep 3, 09:34:20
  - With respect that’s because we were in the top division in the most part (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 3, 09:33:10
    - I just think there's some rewriting of history here. (NCFC) - lurd, Sep 3, 09:38:19
      - I’m not convinced Chase meant to get us relegated and (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 3, 09:46:31
        
        selling players is our reality, and always has been (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Sep 3, 10:49:44
        
        The current regime have had us being a non-selling club for a long time. (NCFC) - APB, Sep 3, 10:10:21
        
        How is replacing Fox with Neil Adams any different to replacing (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 3, 10:23:10
        
        Ok. (NCFC) - APB, Sep 3, 11:15:14
        
        and i'm not a Chase fan either, iots was just the suggestion that the current (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 3, 11:27:50
        
        Actually Crofts is a bad example. Sorry. (NCFC) - APB, Sep 3, 10:16:59
        
        Highest transfer profit of any football league club over the last 5 windows - £56.9m but (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 3, 10:36:21
        
        Did I say we weren’t now? (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Sep 3, 11:16:23
        
        I did read it that way yes but i think the exchange above has cleared it up. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 3, 11:30:28
- FFS (NCFC) - APB, Sep 3, 08:41:36
  - (Or actually, there was quite a lot of anger at the sale of Fleck) (NCFC) - APB, Sep 3, 09:00:57
  - Would you prefer it if Delia considered outside investment APB? (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Sep 3, 08:51:07
    - Why wouldn’t I? (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Sep 3, 08:54:41
      - I mean, we all want the team to be successful. (NCFC) - APB, Sep 3, 08:59:37
- It’s partly because Delia is a celebrity and a woman (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 3, 08:34:47
  - “our support has been “Deliafied” over the years“ (NCFC) - APB, Sep 3, 09:07:27
  - More vile spin from Jim (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 3, 09:00:47
    - Why is it vlle Ralf? (NCFC) - Men without hats, Sep 3, 09:07:42
      - It's Jim's description of the club's official announcements that you're missing (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 3, 09:11:46
        
        Amongst other things. (n/m) (NCFC) - bird table, Sep 3, 10:20:42
  - You two really do have a most unedifying habit (NCFC) - norway, Sep 3, 08:38:17
    - Irony just died. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Sep 3, 10:37:31
      - There may be posters who grind my gears, Shaun and ohhhh, I bite. (NCFC) - norway, Sep 3, 11:09:00
        
        hmm (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Sep 3, 11:44:06
        
        Is that it? (NCFC) - norway, Sep 3, 11:47:46
        
        I don;t see him telling fans what they should think (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 3, 11:32:29
        
        We'll have to disagree I'm afraid Jim. (NCFC) - norway, Sep 3, 11:40:45
    - Pot and kettle spring to mind Norway. (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Sep 3, 08:52:43
  - And she saved us from admin once (NCFC) - Old Git, Sep 3, 08:37:40
    - What do you mean “saved us from admin”?, did she put a halt to excessive paperwork ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Sep 3, 09:37:17
    - But its starting to wane now with most fans I speak to. (NCFC) - Men without hats, Sep 3, 08:59:09
    - Which Tom has none of. Things will turn very quickly once he takes on (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 3, 08:56:14
- I'm not aware of animosity towards him the whole time... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Sep 3, 07:23:03
  - Could it be argued that telling fans he will do what he likes as chairman is (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 3, 08:36:24
  - Hmmm (NCFC) - Old Git, Sep 3, 08:36:18
    - Great post (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Sep 3, 10:38:48
    - I'm aware of the irony but re more money... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Sep 3, 09:00:10
      - Very true. (NCFC) - Men without hats, Sep 3, 09:37:23
    - They’re not getting any younger (who is?) and they need to find a successor. (NCFC) - APB, Sep 3, 08:49:22
      - As is life in general. (NCFC) - Men without hats, Sep 3, 09:06:15
        
        Fair point, supposition on my part. (NCFC) - Men without hats, Sep 3, 09:39:35
        
        My opinion is that my opinion is of little importance. (NCFC) - APB, Sep 3, 09:58:54
        
        Spot on. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Sep 3, 11:13:13
        
        For the record, I don't hold that assumption. (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Sep 3, 10:40:50
        
        You may be *aware* - however it has no effect whatsoever (NCFC) - norway, Sep 3, 11:15:21
        
        Who said I was happy with the status quo? (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Sep 3, 09:17:41
    - Pretty much it in a nutshell OG! (NCFC) - Men without hats, Sep 3, 08:47:46

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