You appear to have extraordinary faith in the Tories to deliver ER

Then again I'm not sure I have faith in Labour to deliver it either. And both appear to be only offering AV, which, as you note, isn't really any better - it certainly isn't proportional. But compromise on the form of ER right now would be disastrous as there'll not be another chance for a very long time.

I take your point about showing that coalitions can work; but to be honest I think the majority of electorate are already fairly convinced and would just like to vote for a party or candidate that most closely represents their views rather than tactically voting or simply voting against the latest hated incumbents. Well, that's where I've ended up anyway.

The elephant in the room is the economy, which has to be faced sometime - preferably without letting the "markets" (read the City) dictate - especially since they f**ked it in the first place and seem to forget who bailed them out; but in some respects I think ER is more important - provided we get it right...

Posted By: BerlinCanary on May 11th 2010 at 10:59:48

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Principled opposition to Lib-Lab coalition (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, May 11, 07:54:56
- I think that... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, May 11, 09:03:17
- wouldn't that apply to any coalition though? (General Chat) - mr carra, May 11, 08:16:46
  - Well, yes; but he's coming from a Labour perspective (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, May 11, 08:29:44
- Excellent Piece (General Chat) - Martin Peters, May 11, 08:05:17
  - A different analogy on the lib dems (General Chat) - KentonCanary, May 11, 08:53:42
    - lol! Perfect. (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, May 11, 09:03:43
  - Blimey, I'm a nemesis (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 11, 08:16:08
    - I'm Enjoying The Debate! (General Chat) - Martin Peters, May 11, 08:27:40
      - "PR of some kind is inevitable ..." (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, May 11, 09:24:31
        
        ^^^ yes (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 11, 10:00:09
      - fair play (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 11, 08:30:16
        
        Think It Has To Be Today... (General Chat) - Martin Peters, May 11, 08:43:54
  - it's going to be a Lib Dem/Tory coalition within 2 days (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 11, 08:13:49
    - More likely a Con minority in that case? (n/m) (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, May 11, 08:32:23
      - no, because Clegg will want *something* out of it (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 11, 09:57:09
        
        You appear to have extraordinary faith in the Tories to deliver ER (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, May 11, 10:59:48
        
        trusting the Tories to deliver a referendum on ER is very different to trusting them to (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 11, 11:56:11
        
        His arguments equally apply to the Tories on delivering ER (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, May 11, 13:43:32
        
        i think the Tories are more likely to fall into line just to get into power again (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 11, 14:17:24
        
        Well they have some serious right wing nut jobs (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, May 11, 14:36:20
        
        whereas Mandelson and Campbell aren't desperate to hold on? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 11, 15:09:36
    - they actually want to be in opposition (General Chat) - duke of york, May 11, 08:16:41
      - and it gives them time to get a new leader in before the next election (General Chat) - mr carra, May 11, 08:18:14
        
        Football analogy time (General Chat) - APB, May 11, 09:06:36
        
        Drinking analogy time (General Chat) - Jim Nasium, May 11, 09:12:04
        
        Yes. Yes. (General Chat) - APB, May 11, 09:16:00
        
        Old fart. (General Chat) - Jim Nasium, May 11, 09:21:41
        
        In my defence (General Chat) - APB, May 11, 09:42:58
        
        old fart.... (General Chat) - Jumbo1, May 11, 09:41:39
        
        Cor. Beginning to think I was a bit lucky to avoid last Saturday. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 11, 09:23:11
        
        Naah - wasn't *that* Bacchanalian. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, May 11, 09:32:44
        
        I think I'd be OK as long as I had Nasie there to lok after me (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 11, 09:33:51
        
        Yeah right. With that scallywag ? No chance. (n/m) (General Chat) - BSG Canary, May 11, 09:40:51
        
        hem hem... (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim Nasium, May 11, 09:54:03
        
        *look* (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 11, 09:34:07
        
        You'd have loved it. (General Chat) - Jim Nasium, May 11, 09:25:11

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