^^^ yes

which is why i think it's important to gain a concession from the Tories not just of a referendum, but also for them to back a Yes vote in the referendum.

it won't automatically bring the right-wing press on-side, but it may at least help deliver some votes from the Tory faithful

Posted By: Ralf Scrampton on May 11th 2010 at 10:00:09

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Principled opposition to Lib-Lab coalition (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, May 11, 07:54:56
- I think that... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, May 11, 09:03:17
- wouldn't that apply to any coalition though? (General Chat) - mr carra, May 11, 08:16:46
  - Well, yes; but he's coming from a Labour perspective (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, May 11, 08:29:44
- Excellent Piece (General Chat) - Martin Peters, May 11, 08:05:17
  - A different analogy on the lib dems (General Chat) - KentonCanary, May 11, 08:53:42
    - lol! Perfect. (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, May 11, 09:03:43
  - Blimey, I'm a nemesis (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 11, 08:16:08
    - I'm Enjoying The Debate! (General Chat) - Martin Peters, May 11, 08:27:40
      - "PR of some kind is inevitable ..." (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, May 11, 09:24:31
        
        ^^^ yes (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 11, 10:00:09
      - fair play (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 11, 08:30:16
        
        Think It Has To Be Today... (General Chat) - Martin Peters, May 11, 08:43:54
  - it's going to be a Lib Dem/Tory coalition within 2 days (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 11, 08:13:49
    - More likely a Con minority in that case? (n/m) (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, May 11, 08:32:23
      - no, because Clegg will want *something* out of it (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 11, 09:57:09
        
        You appear to have extraordinary faith in the Tories to deliver ER (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, May 11, 10:59:48
        
        trusting the Tories to deliver a referendum on ER is very different to trusting them to (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 11, 11:56:11
        
        His arguments equally apply to the Tories on delivering ER (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, May 11, 13:43:32
        
        i think the Tories are more likely to fall into line just to get into power again (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 11, 14:17:24
        
        Well they have some serious right wing nut jobs (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, May 11, 14:36:20
        
        whereas Mandelson and Campbell aren't desperate to hold on? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 11, 15:09:36
    - they actually want to be in opposition (General Chat) - duke of york, May 11, 08:16:41
      - and it gives them time to get a new leader in before the next election (General Chat) - mr carra, May 11, 08:18:14
        
        Football analogy time (General Chat) - APB, May 11, 09:06:36
        
        Drinking analogy time (General Chat) - Jim Nasium, May 11, 09:12:04
        
        Yes. Yes. (General Chat) - APB, May 11, 09:16:00
        
        Old fart. (General Chat) - Jim Nasium, May 11, 09:21:41
        
        In my defence (General Chat) - APB, May 11, 09:42:58
        
        old fart.... (General Chat) - Jumbo1, May 11, 09:41:39
        
        Cor. Beginning to think I was a bit lucky to avoid last Saturday. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 11, 09:23:11
        
        Naah - wasn't *that* Bacchanalian. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, May 11, 09:32:44
        
        I think I'd be OK as long as I had Nasie there to lok after me (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 11, 09:33:51
        
        Yeah right. With that scallywag ? No chance. (n/m) (General Chat) - BSG Canary, May 11, 09:40:51
        
        hem hem... (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim Nasium, May 11, 09:54:03
        
        *look* (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 11, 09:34:07
        
        You'd have loved it. (General Chat) - Jim Nasium, May 11, 09:25:11

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