Absolutely.

I'm not in any way trying to defend idiot drivers here - far from it - but I feel that the indignance of cyclists who seem to think they can do no wrong is way out of balance. Separation is the obvious answer, but there is no way on this earth that cyclists should be out there on the roads uninsured.
The semantics about 'road tax' are just silly. A vehicle is defined as 'a thing used for transporting people or goods'. So cycles are vehicles, and could easily be included in Vehicle Excise Duty rules.
Sorry if you see this as a windup or trolling, I think it's a conversation worth having as do many others.

Posted By: Cannydc on November 28th 2018 at 20:12:38

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Couldn't resist posting this (General Chat) - Cannydc, Nov 28, 19:00:59
- "507 motorists stopped for using their phone while driving" (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 28, 19:08:13
  - Bite! (n/m) (General Chat) - yellowman, Nov 28, 20:04:19
    - ^^^ obsessed (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 28, 20:12:55
      - The gangs riding shotgun.... (General Chat) - yellowman, Nov 28, 20:14:08
  - Indeed. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 28, 19:15:36
    - Offenders clocked up a total of 4,758 offences" - 519 from cyclists. (General Chat) - APB, Nov 28, 19:52:13
    - Chairs (General Chat) - Cannydc, Nov 28, 19:23:27
      - There's no such thing as road tax, you melt. (General Chat) - norway, Nov 28, 20:08:01
      - This comment really shows your mindset. (General Chat) - APB, Nov 28, 19:57:43
      - It is a rare day nowadays that I don't have to take evasive action because some cunt of a (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 28, 19:44:38
        
        Most cyclists also drive; many drivers also cycle (General Chat) - Old Man, Nov 28, 19:52:22
        
        Indeed. Big difference is the damage we can do in one vs the other (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 28, 20:53:54
        
        of course they do (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 28, 19:53:31
      - Road tax? (n/m) (General Chat) - jAC, Nov 28, 19:35:20
      - what's road tax? (n/m) (General Chat) - matt in london, Nov 28, 19:31:13
      - What are you really getting at? (General Chat) - 51eve, Nov 28, 19:31:07
        
        Well put. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Nov 28, 20:09:33
        
        I think it's the lycra. It troubles and confuses some people. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Nov 28, 19:59:54
        
        it's a total disconnection from anything outside peoples bubble (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 28, 20:04:49
        
        there should be proper exclusive, cyclists-only roads throughout every city (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 28, 19:34:59
        
        Absolutely. (General Chat) - Cannydc, Nov 28, 20:12:38
        
        Please read this (General Chat) - 51eve, Nov 28, 20:37:31
        
        Who says cyclists do no wrong? (General Chat) - APB, Nov 28, 20:26:42
        
        and if they were included they'd still pay £0 cos it's emissions based (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 28, 20:22:40
        
        (I do release some emissions sometimes) (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Nov 28, 20:27:07
        
        Lol... what do you think vehicle excise duty is *for*? (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Nov 28, 20:21:54
        
        I agree that cyclists should be better regulated and pay some form of tax (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 28, 20:21:24
        
        AND THE FUCKING HEDGEHOGS. TAX-DODGING SCUM! (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Nov 28, 21:05:52
        
        and mobility scooterers, and they wheelchair fuckers (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 28, 21:16:35
        
        pedestrians? why should they get away tax free? (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 28, 20:26:01
        
        well, there is a case for some kind of insurance for all (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 28, 20:30:37
        
        an insurance for everyone? an insurance for the whole nation? (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 28, 20:50:22
        
        that only covers your health issues though, not third party damage and other liability (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 28, 21:36:50
        
        also whoosh (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 28, 23:13:52
        
        Public liability insurance? (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Nov 28, 20:32:14
        
        i give up (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 28, 20:22:20
        
        of course i don't give in but ffs, really? (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 28, 20:27:36
        
        i didn't say that, I said "in cities" (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 28, 20:31:13
        
        Norwich is a city? (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 28, 20:50:26
        
        no, you can shut roads to cars and reserve them solely for bikes (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 28, 21:38:15
        
        and kill off local independent retailers (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 28, 22:03:14
        
        though where streets have banned cars you tend to have shoppers flocking back (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 28, 23:19:47
        
        Seriously? Good grief. (General Chat) - APB, Nov 28, 20:30:43
        
        yep, what i was telled anyway (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 28, 20:55:58
        
        oh, an good on your mrs as well (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 28, 21:00:08
        
        we should be encouraging people to cycle not discouraging them (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 28, 20:20:46
        
        I would happily pay for insurance if it was made compulsory. (General Chat) - emmaroyds, Nov 28, 20:20:12
        
        And can (but don't always) (General Chat) - Cannydc, Nov 28, 20:34:22
        
        "559 caught for driving without insurance" (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 28, 20:40:44
        
        There is. (General Chat) - Cannydc, Nov 28, 20:58:15
        
        um, whoosh (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 28, 21:06:59

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