Hard to disagree with any of that

You are right about the people that 'they' got in in 2009 but the banks had as much say back then and the owners had to take a relative back seat while others got to grips with the mess we were in.

They did that for a while but the success since has seen them back in the driving seat and taking the direction we are now heading. The likes of Ed Balls, Steve Stone and Boy Tom aren't going to rock the boat even if we go down to the third tier again.

For those of us of a certain generation who are now told that the club has to be treated as a community asset, a cooperative or anything else other than what you actually want to hear, while the likes of Watford, Huddersfield, Bournemouth and others surpass us under owners with more means, it is as you say more difficult to care as much as we did before.

Posted By: Chalk Hill Bitter on August 28th 2017 at 09:25:39

Message Thread

Some thoughts (too many words etc etc) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 28, 09:02:17
- Is investment the answer......... (NCFC) - usacanary, Aug 28, 17:21:34
- The glass ceiling will continue to get lower and lower as investment in club reduces (NCFC) - John in Texas, Aug 28, 10:46:35
- Hasn't this debate been done thousands of time before? (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Aug 28, 10:22:01
  - And we finished 11th and 12th with these owners. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Aug 28, 10:29:10
    - Football has changed massively tho (NCFC) - Gob on a Stick, Aug 28, 10:49:55
      - Agree. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Aug 28, 11:03:33
    - consistently? (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Aug 28, 10:40:31
      - Not really a hill to die on here. (NCFC) - norway, Aug 28, 11:03:22
        
        Fair comment - but that's the problem with lack of finance. No margin for error (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 28, 11:05:43
        
        And of course, re: 2005/6, we didn't get it right next time. Or the time after that. (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 28, 11:07:12
    - And the chances of that happening again are...? (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 28, 10:31:42
  - I agree. However, with these owners, our glass ceiling was 18th/19th (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 28, 10:25:24
    - Ultimately doesn't it come down to global fanbase? (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Aug 28, 10:35:17
      - Not been an issue for Stoke/West Brom/Watford/Palace/Swansea/Southampton (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 28, 10:43:48
        
        Agreed, my only worry and I think Delia's as well is that if we (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Aug 28, 10:47:13
        
        Oh sure. There's always risks, big ones (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 28, 10:50:43
        
        And FWIW I think we'll get promoted in the next 2 seasons. (n/m) (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Aug 28, 10:50:33
        
        Based on what do you say that? (n/m) (NCFC) - Mackem Canary, Aug 28, 11:47:29
        
        Pure optimism (n/m) (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Aug 28, 11:59:43
        
        Ditto. Let's get that "League 1 Champions 2018/19" open top bus organised ;-) (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 28, 10:51:49
  - What's wrong with that? (n/m) (NCFC) - Mickdundee, Aug 28, 10:24:47
    - Well, exactly (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 28, 10:25:53
- Agreed, it's hard to care when you've seen it happen so many times before. (NCFC) - lurd, Aug 28, 10:08:00
- Hard to disagree with any of that (NCFC) - Chalk Hill Bitter, Aug 28, 09:25:39
- Nailed it (n/m) (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Aug 28, 09:18:18
- I largely agree, but I'm wondering why they've managed to cock it (NCFC) - dennis moore, Aug 28, 09:12:43
  - And as you said earlier bgh getting older makes you 'softer' for want of a better word. (NCFC) - Men without hats, Aug 28, 10:30:25
  - Got lucky/good recommendation in McNally (NCFC) - Jim, Aug 28, 09:23:33
  - Oh, tons of factors (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 28, 09:22:39
    - Yep with regards to being soft, just need to look at West Ham for the opposite (NCFC) - Mickdundee, Aug 28, 09:36:21
- nail hit on head (n/m) (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Aug 28, 09:11:15
- Agree. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Aug 28, 09:10:39
  - Agree with Jim's response. And then there was their interview in The Times (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 28, 09:32:49
    - So no evidence of a serious approach. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Aug 28, 09:46:08
      - I suggest you read the interview. It's from the horse's mouth (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 28, 09:51:14
        
        Full interview is here. It's a perfect illustration of their attitude to modern football (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 28, 10:03:56
        
        You can't help but patronise can you? (NCFC) - avenging canary, Aug 28, 10:02:21
        
        any serious credible buyer would have been NDAed (NCFC) - CWC, Aug 28, 10:45:00
  - They will have had many informal enquiries and they will have put off (NCFC) - Jim, Aug 28, 09:22:16
    - Exactly. An assumption. No evidence whatsoever. (n/m) (NCFC) - avenging canary, Aug 28, 09:40:32
      - No evidence whatsoever. Apart from, er, Delia herself (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 28, 09:43:38
        
        That article is full of stupid comments. AN to be manager for 10 years... (NCFC) - avenging canary, Aug 28, 09:54:31
        
        This (n/m) (NCFC) - Mickdundee, Aug 28, 09:46:32
- Spot on (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Aug 28, 09:07:04
- Absolute spot on 👍 (n/m) (NCFC) - helvegtheowl, Aug 28, 09:03:19

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