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Norwich MP Clive Lewis has become the new Shadow Defence Secretary (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 27, 10:01:56
- They asked me but I already resigned. (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Jun 27, 16:45:58
- the way its going and the state the labour party is in (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 27, 11:36:29
- He's starting well anyway (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 27, 11:33:41
- I thought he'd get something. Close to Corbyn. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Jun 27, 11:06:19
- shame, I hope this doesn't taint his career (NCFC) - CWC, Jun 27, 10:46:57
- He's in and around the Shadow Cabinet, Clive. (n/m) (NCFC) - bird table, Jun 27, 10:27:00
  - lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Chris Peacock, Jun 27, 10:51:55
  - A subtle one - bravo (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jun 27, 10:39:38
- Anyone effected by job cuts going forward, now's a great chance to try get into politics (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 27, 10:17:58
  - you have to obtain your Flouncing badges first (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 27, 10:21:24
- I feel safer already (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 27, 10:04:37
- Corbyn on fire today! (n/m) (NCFC) - shoddy, Jun 27, 10:03:47
Farage is being excluded from the committee to negotiate Brexit (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 16:38:34
- He wouldn't want to be (NCFC) - CWC, Jun 25, 18:13:15
- Quite Right (NCFC) - White Van Man, Jun 25, 18:07:22
- Fall guy ! (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 25, 16:58:54
- Good (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 25, 16:41:05
  - x2 (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Jun 25, 16:43:06
- As much of a dick he is, he'd probably be better at negotiating than all the others (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris, Jun 25, 16:40:27
  - Nonsense (NCFC) - King, Jun 25, 16:50:15
- Seems a bit harsh, he rallied the troops! He started all this shit (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 16:39:52
  - Seems the Tories who don't really want the UK to leave the EU took over the Leave campaign (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 16:43:41
- FFS (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jun 25, 16:39:37
  - Lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris, Jun 25, 16:40:44
Calais locals now calling for the refugee camp to be moved across the channel (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 16:14:15
- NO! Control our borders and tel France to do one. (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 16:36:09
- They can call for what they want doesn't mean it'll happen (n/m) (NCFC) - Mickdundee, Jun 25, 16:31:16
  - How does it all end? Military confrontation? (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 16:39:00
    - I notice you are not posting much OG shows sense (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 25, 17:01:13
      - Same back to ya fella 💋💋 (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Jun 25, 17:47:08
    - Are you actually 13? (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Jun 25, 16:51:29
      - How did Hitler get power? (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 17:56:07
- Kent locals now suggesting the Frogs might consider dealing properly with the refugees on (NCFC) - Old Git, Jun 25, 16:24:18
  - Ha Ha (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 25, 16:28:01
Some quite interesting voting stats here (General Chat) - manc_yello, Jun 25, 14:54:09
- The force for good/ill bit is extremely disconcerting (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jun 25, 15:12:21
- Lots of good info there including............. (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 15:06:19
  - Hangings too good for em! (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 25, 15:25:53
Democracy is crap, we should live in a dictatorship. (n/m) (NCFC) - promethian1, Jun 25, 14:50:34
- better that one person knows the right thing to do... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 14:54:00
  - Define 'Right' Larry! (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 25, 14:57:19
    - He means anyone who doesn't back his own view. (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Jun 25, 15:34:27
  - Exactly... no arguments needed. Dear Leader knows best. (n/m) (NCFC) - promethian1, Jun 25, 14:56:20
As an outsider looking in.... (General Chat) - usacanary, Jun 25, 13:41:36
- People still don't get it do they (General Chat) - wolfio, Jun 25, 14:32:22
  - IMHO it was absolutely an anti-establishment vote... (General Chat) - usacanary, Jun 25, 15:07:21
- Surveys show that older and less educated people tended to voted Brexit (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 14:05:41
  - My god you are like a trollbot at the moment. Give it a fucking rest (n/m) (General Chat) - Hulk Rules, Jun 25, 14:31:43
    - No (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 14:56:16
      - Here's the news (General Chat) - Hulk Rules, Jun 25, 15:32:52
        
        no need for you to be abusive (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 15:46:28
        
        Not abusive at all (General Chat) - Hulk Rules, Jun 25, 16:22:02
  - more easily manipulated by psychopathic con artists (Farage, Boris, Gove etc) (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 14:07:04
    - propaganda works (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 14:13:50
    - Ultimately the remain campaign failed to reach out to these people (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 14:08:39
      - Governments rule by fear. Positive messages don't resonate so well (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 14:24:11
- A lot of leave voters wanted out because of false beliefs about immigration. (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 13:46:31
  - A lot of people voted in because of fear (General Chat) - RochdaleCanary, Jun 25, 13:58:24
    - I agree the remain campaign could've been much better, selling benefits (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 14:03:56
      - Osbornes nonsense about what things will look like in 2050 (General Chat) - Gob on a Stick, Jun 25, 14:19:27
      - Sad if you actually believe that (n/m) (General Chat) - RochdaleCanary, Jun 25, 14:13:44
  - It only works if enough people have those deep down feelings (General Chat) - usacanary, Jun 25, 13:56:39
    - That's the most depressing thing about it (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 25, 14:11:14
Now on day 5 of sitting in the French sunshine, swilling endless bottles of beer. (General Chat) - tudders, Jun 25, 13:28:09
- Do it while you can (General Chat) - King, Jun 25, 15:35:44
- very low house prices too (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 13:46:00
- Exactly...live life..... (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Jun 25, 13:44:45
  - Perhaps those so worried about immigration could've done the same thing (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 13:48:52
- But what about all the terrorists? UK is much safer now we have border control back (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 13:29:08
  - Bigger prawns over here Essex. Huge massive great prawns. (General Chat) - tudders, Jun 25, 13:33:04
    - Lots of plus points! (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 13:34:47
Good speech from Corbyn a little while ago (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 11:59:52
- If he had any decency he would resign. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 25, 12:14:19
  - What a weird thing to say... cos Tories are split, PM just resigned and the UK voted to (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 12:30:05
    - Or all the disenfranchised traditional Labour voters who voted Leave (General Chat) - Ken Breadstick, Jun 25, 13:14:01
      - Corbyn wanted a reformed EU, not to just fuck off. (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 13:21:39
    - No. He's an awful leader full stop. Nothing to do with Brexit. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 25, 12:41:06
      - He has vastly increased the number of members in his party (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 13:17:27
  - getting elected isn't really his job (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 25, 12:27:32
    - Interesting view (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 25, 13:40:26
      - Very true, although I think it also depends on how long-term you are (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 25, 14:02:19
        
        Well that's certainly true (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 25, 14:24:14
      - Think he needs to do both, garnish support from members and get elected (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 13:49:57
    - Agree. He represents something different in politics, bridging the gap bewteen (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 12:48:19
      - I think that is one of the key problems (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 25, 12:57:08
        
        It's about leadership, not necessarily charisma, although that helps. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 25, 13:18:46
        
        The problems with his leadership are (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 25, 13:23:40
        
        See. Lack of leadership. I'm glad we agree! (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 25, 14:01:20
        
        He is leading the left wing element of his party (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 25, 14:03:47
        
        So he needs to sort them. That takes leadership. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 25, 14:20:48
        
        Yesterday day you said you would be happy with Teresa May or Chuka Umunna (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 25, 14:28:53
        
        Rather than Boris Johnson. Which depressing looks like what we'll get. (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 25, 14:34:40
        
        Very depressing we give psychopathic charmer narcissists all the power to lead us :( (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 13:04:04
    - The vote was hijacked. Join for ?3 and vote. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 25, 12:43:50
      - Same can happen with the new tory leadership too can't it? (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 12:48:57
        
        No idea to be honest. (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 25, 12:56:55
        
        I think it might be the same. Tory members to vote for the next PM (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 13:04:45
Pro-Brexit Tory MEP Daniel Hannan is now saying that... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 11:14:21
- yes, yes they did larry (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 25, 11:15:40
  - Why? (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 11:17:27
    - (They didn't really Essex) (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 25, 11:19:10
Ignorant racist in 'vote leave' shocker (General Chat) - King, Jun 25, 11:05:16
- Where's the full clip? I couldn't find it on the C4 website, or was it part of their news (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 11:39:38
- Unfortunately that seems rather typical (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 11:20:36
  - Yep (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 11:35:16
- not sure his is ignorant, at least not about the effects that his vote will have (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 25, 11:17:54
  - But the brexit campaigners kept saying they wanted EU + non EU immigration to be (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 11:36:54
    - Seems that some Brexiters want free movement from anywhere in the world (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 11:41:26
      - I bet they don't really want freedom of movement from anywhere else (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 12:52:13
- I'm sure he quite understands what the Brexit campaigners were promising (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 11:16:26
  - *not quite sure (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 11:16:42
- I will be glad when football starts again..... (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 25, 11:06:48
  - *takes mental note to continue showing up Brexit ignorance/racism after football starts* (n/m) (General Chat) - King, Jun 25, 11:13:17
    - what all bloody season ? how about a break for Xmas like the foreign countries ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 25, 11:22:23
      - Or we just use the general chat filter (which King did) and you switch it off maybe? (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 11:37:52
UK?s credit outlook cut from ?Stable? To ?Negative? (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 01:27:19
- will probably be a full downgrade soon (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 25, 01:49:32
  - yep (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 25, 10:45:30
    - Do you think that's a good thing MWH? (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 13:09:25
"Reuters reports that major Wall Street banks are scouring Europe to find a new home (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 00:19:30
- BHS 11000 jobs..... (NCFC) - yellowman, Jun 25, 10:09:41
- If one thing could have made me vote leave it's the idea of fewer bankers (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Jun 25, 09:36:07
  - Haha, vmt (n/m) (NCFC) - yellowman, Jun 25, 10:05:49
- I wish you'd find a new home (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Breadstick, Jun 25, 07:33:47
  - He dew go onnabit duttee? He dew enall (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Jun 25, 09:36:59
- Ftse actually finished up on the week and the pound was at the same (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 25, 07:20:56
  - With all the uncertainty going forward, don't expect it to remain stable haha (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 13:10:22
- STOCK AND AWE FTSE 100 witnesses spectacular Brexit (NCFC) - lovely old job, Jun 25, 00:42:14
- ARIS (Reuters) - French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said it (NCFC) - lovely old job, Jun 25, 00:39:35
- Mr Cameron was later given assurances from US President (NCFC) - lovely old job, Jun 25, 00:35:37
- Let's hope they're using the same team Norwich used in the search that resulted in Neyul (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jun 25, 00:27:37
- Yawn (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris, Jun 25, 00:26:23
  - nicely countered (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 25, 00:30:45
How this could turn out ok... (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 24, 21:34:26
- It seems you've reached stage 3. I'm currently wallowing at stage 4. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jun 24, 22:19:22
  - I forget is ' denial' or ' plea bargaining' first ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 24, 22:35:04
- It's pretty desperate when May seems like a good option (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, Jun 24, 22:11:32
  - It is desperate. Boris Johnson is favourite for PM. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 24, 22:13:43
    - I'm in total agreement (General Chat) - camcan, Jun 24, 22:21:31
      - It'll turn out alright just have faith . (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 24, 22:35:57
- How long will the deal take? Some experts say decades (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 22:03:27
  - Surely the referendum is binding (General Chat) - Chicken, Jun 24, 22:17:47
    - it was an 'advisory' referendum, govt. could choose to ignore it (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:57:15
  - What about the fact immigration won't go down. What will the ukipers do then? (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 22:03:54
- May who cut border control and customs staff and..... (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 21:54:14
  - No the labour voters are with UKIP (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Breadstick, Jun 24, 22:43:25
- theresa may. decent? hmmm (n/m) (General Chat) - IG88, Jun 24, 21:35:43
  - Agree, very questionable (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 22:04:16
  - Context. May, Boris or Gove.... (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 24, 21:45:03
  - She turned me into a newt (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 24, 21:38:15
  - she's a witch! (n/m) (General Chat) - earthleakage, Jun 24, 21:36:46
    - burn her (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 24, 21:52:34
anyone watching pistorious thing (General Chat) - IG88, Jun 24, 21:29:53
- Has he asked to borrow a glove from OJ Simpson? (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 21:58:03
- nope but it makes the listings fun (General Chat) - Bungle, Jun 24, 21:48:00
- Who cares (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 24, 21:35:22
  - charming. what would you like to talk about? (General Chat) - IG88, Jun 24, 21:43:10
    - Don't be so sensitive (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 24, 22:17:31
Brexit leaders look sad (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 17:37:52
- Boris looks shellshocked. (n/m) (NCFC) - Bungle, Jun 24, 18:09:08
- Oh I think they really do ! It's happened Larry (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 24, 17:42:25
  - So when do we get all these problems sorted then? (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 17:43:58
    - So did brexit cause these then ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 24, 17:44:51
      - No Brexit was sold as the magic potion/solution though. (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 18:25:12
      - All I'm saying is it's done and dusted - probably ! (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 24, 17:45:47
I reckon Scotland and Northern Ireland should invite all the remain supporters to live In (NCFC) - hoolahan, Jun 24, 16:41:08
- This is an option that's on the table at my company as we consider wtf to do (n/m) (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Jun 24, 17:37:51
- Free uni education in Scotland and some big companies might be tempted to move there (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 17:34:22
  - .....and the SNP! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Jun 24, 22:41:26
  - .....and the SNP! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Jun 24, 22:40:57
- I'm not sure if that's supposed to be funny but I think that's exactly what will happen (NCFC) - King, Jun 24, 17:25:47
  - Would seriously consider it if the new "Independent England First" went to shit (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 17:30:15
    - Nah, full of scots apparently and it always rains! (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 24, 18:10:24
  - I've already been half joking about it with Scottish friends. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 24, 17:27:26
- Perhaps all the leave campaigners can be forced to live in shitholes like Yarmouth. (NCFC) - lurd, Jun 24, 16:47:32
  - Steady mate (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 24, 17:00:39
    - Huge majority there though tbf (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 17:26:05
      - true (n/m) (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 24, 18:09:12
Does the UKIP vote move back to Labour when they get a more credible leadership? (n/m) (General Chat) - Yellalee, Jun 24, 15:27:43
- Most Labour supporters voted remain, some voted Brexit just so the Tories would implode (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 16:05:16
  - Why did areas such as Redcar have such strong Leave results? (General Chat) - Ken Breadstick, Jun 24, 16:52:21
    - to make the Tories implode (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 17:30:06
      - No it's because they're uneducated... (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Jun 24, 18:41:58
  - Total Rubbish (General Chat) - Ken Breadstick, Jun 24, 16:51:08
- eh? You mean time labour voters that supported Brexit? (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Jun 24, 15:43:12
  - *The* not *time* (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Jun 24, 15:43:37
- I don't know where the UKIP vote (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Jun 24, 15:43:07
  - Scary shit (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 15:51:03
- They aren't really UKIP voters, they're Labour voters with a strong dislike of the EU (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 24, 15:42:00
  - didn't quite a few of them vote UKIP at the last election? (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 24, 15:51:40
    - people from all different parties did, not just exclusively Labour (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Jun 24, 15:54:07
      - well clearly (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 24, 15:59:20
        
        UK Independence party (well we're an "independent UK") so I guess they've conquered the (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 16:00:21
  - which also is exactly what Corbyn is (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 24, 15:44:59
    - was it a 'majority of Labour supporters'? (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 24, 15:57:44
- only if they promise to kick out immigrants (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 24, 15:39:30
- only if the new leader is credible to UKIP voters (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 24, 15:39:12
This is so fucking depressing. (General Chat) - tudders, Jun 24, 15:06:20
- If people stop going on about how wrong and stupid the other side were it might help (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 24, 15:30:38
  - this is Stag 1 of the 5 psychological phases of Divorce: 'Blaming the spouse' (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 24, 15:38:22
    - *feels strange fluttering of interest in handsome stranger [CWC] has just met on internet* (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 24, 15:40:35
      - 09-09-09 55378008, US$ please. (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 24, 15:46:56
  - Well that would be a good place to start, however, (General Chat) - tudders, Jun 24, 15:36:41
    - If you go on and on and on about how wrong other people were (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 24, 15:38:53
      - Its still early days to be fair. Then comes the pragmatism (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 16:02:00
- Yep (n/m) (General Chat) - Mozzer, Jun 24, 15:25:49
- the inevitable result of neo-liberalism (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 24, 15:19:50
  - Very depressing times ahead (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 15:22:12
- Agree (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 15:16:33
- I went into Sainsburys and so many people looking totally shocked today (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 15:08:18
  - I sent my housekeeper into Waitrose today and she told me (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 24, 15:34:10
  - #larrytales (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 24, 15:33:29
  - had they run out of Pringles? (n/m) (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 24, 15:21:19
  - What the fuck did they think their vote meant? That it was just a joke vote? (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 15:16:56
So our independent country's new PM isn't going to be elected by the people/public? (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 14:52:21
- Neither was Gordon Brown; did you whinge about that too? (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jun 24, 16:01:28
  - And that Essex, is part of the problem, people have had enough of this top heavy, (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jun 24, 16:21:19
    - I get that, I'm not a huge fan myself, but reform and change by cutting nose off to spite (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 17:36:00
  - I wasn't voting to ditch unelected politicians though tbf (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 16:03:38
- Yep, so ironic. Public don't get to elect the House of Lords or monarchy either. (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 15:06:49
  - they don't make laws though (n/m) (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 24, 15:23:09
    - How do you think laws will be made/created post Brexit though? (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 15:23:48
      - I rather suspect the same way they are now (n/m) (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 24, 15:29:43
        
        But without any EU standard to keep countries from becoming too extreme like Hitler did? (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 16:04:18
  - We better dismantle the House of Lords and monarchy too then (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 15:17:56
    - Yep (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 15:19:10
- The public don't elect a PM, the party do. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Jun 24, 14:57:21
  - So Cameron being their leader & current PM didn't play a part in tories winning last time? (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 15:01:39
    - Labour would never do that (cough *Gordon Brown* cough). (n/m) (General Chat) - dennis moore, Jun 24, 15:07:45
      - Brexiters wanted elected leaders/politicians though - quite ironic really (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 15:18:44
- mandelson says they will learn from Gordon Brown's mistake and call a general election. (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Jun 24, 14:55:50
  - Is Labour ready for one? Pretty sure they cant call it without Labour's support (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 24, 15:40:07
  - Yer (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 24, 14:59:15
  - I really hope so! (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 14:57:41
    - Stick Chuka in charge (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 24, 15:00:34
      - He's definitely very switched on and seems a bit more in touch with remainers (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 15:02:35
It's started (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 24, 14:35:41
- Jill Treanor Jill Treanor Morgan Stanley is denying that it is moving 2,000 staff out of (General Chat) - dennis moore, Jun 24, 15:16:23
- Chortle: (General Chat) - dennis moore, Jun 24, 15:04:20
- To Bob Geldof's house (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 24, 14:54:44
- That's already been denied by them hasn't it? (n/m) (General Chat) - NorwichDave, Jun 24, 14:52:46
- the dismantling of the 'city' would be a welcome development (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 24, 14:49:11
- I wonder how much tax Morgan Stanley pay (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 24, 14:41:04
  - This would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic. (General Chat) - King, Jun 24, 14:47:11
    - You're the one blubbing old boy. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 24, 14:50:22
      - I blocked you (General Chat) - King, Jun 24, 14:52:54
        
        I'm omnipotent. 😀 (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 24, 14:55:52
        
        Hahaha brilliant (n/m) (General Chat) - yellowman, Jun 24, 17:04:40
    - < Voted Remain (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 24, 14:50:06
  - anything more than ?0 would be a loss - not to mention all that income tax (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 24, 14:43:13
    - It was a glib remark for sure (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 24, 14:48:19
  - Yeah. Good riddance to those thousands of jobs (General Chat) - jampersands, Jun 24, 14:42:16
    - (and it's not as if the thousands of people themselves were paying tax (General Chat) - jampersands, Jun 24, 14:42:56
      - there will be loads of jobs in the factorie and fields because everyone is going 'home'. (n/m) (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Jun 24, 14:47:38
        
        Indeed, I hope those financiers enjoy strawberry picking (n/m) (General Chat) - King, Jun 24, 14:48:55
        
        Cherry picking (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 15:16:26
        
        That's what the EU will definitely let us do during negotiation talks hahahahahaha (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 15:20:28
- Project (General Chat) - jampersands, Jun 24, 14:39:38
Fuck sake (General Chat) - King, Jun 24, 13:31:23
- Correct (General Chat) - wolfio, Jun 24, 14:29:12
- So how exactly do you decide cause you certainly cannot rely on politicians. (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 24, 13:37:21
  - This is exactly the kind of big decision that politicians should be deciding (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 24, 13:47:29
    - Two problems with that - After the expenses fiasco how can we trust them (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 24, 14:17:40
      - Jo Cox (and others like her) seemed pretty trustworthy and in politics for the right reaso (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 14:57:09
      - What's happened is the high turn out 72% has brought out the dumb dumbs (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 24, 14:43:33
    - It isn't binding, it is advisary (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 24, 14:08:33
      - technically not perhaps - but given all party leaders said beforehand that the result (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 24, 14:11:35
        
        Politicians change their minds #libdemsontuitionfees (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 24, 14:15:04
    - Like (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 14:07:54
    - Clearly not........ why? (General Chat) - usacanary, Jun 24, 13:57:43
    - I disagree but the problem here is that we were taking it retrospectively (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 24, 13:52:16
      - in that case when do you stop having referendums? (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 24, 13:54:30
        
        Not not really because they do not involve pooling/eroding our parliamentary sovereignty (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 24, 13:56:22
        
        the point is that MPs are representative of the people in their area (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 24, 14:00:56
    - on the flip side, not giving people a say on Europe (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 24, 13:51:03
      - Yep, the eu is viewed as undemocratic. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 24, 13:57:47
- Larrald was speaking to get earlier I believe... (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 24, 13:36:17
  - Lots are like her! (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 15:18:38
  - her ffs. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 24, 13:36:28
- Sub 100 IQers should have voted Remain? Or not given a vote? (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 24, 13:34:55
  - This elitist attitude is the reason for the out vote. (General Chat) - usacanary, Jun 24, 13:53:55
    - Have you heard of input and output legitimacy? (General Chat) - King, Jun 24, 14:44:57
    - UK is rapidly heading the same way as the US (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 24, 13:57:49
      - Then MPs should make a start on, the man in the street feeling he's being listened to. (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 24, 14:02:55
        
        well yes, I agree, but what does that involve exactly? (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 24, 14:20:01
        
        that's just a meaningless cliche - what does it actually mean? (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 24, 14:07:54
        
        It means that from around the time Brown made that open mic bigot comment (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 24, 14:17:31
        
        quite right too - the Labour party shouldn't be pandering to bigots (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 24, 14:21:22
        
        But the point was she wasn't a bigot. (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 24, 14:27:12
        
        and Boris/Gove pounced over the EU, using Farage/UKIP to help them gain power (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 15:04:14
        
        because people concerned with the level of migration and its affects on society (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 24, 14:25:21
        
        yep, it's a sad situation (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 24, 14:34:24
        
        OK, So lets say 20 million people move to the UK next year (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 24, 14:36:34
        
        what does this question have to do with the real world? (n/m) (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 24, 14:51:24
        
        As long as 20M of our cunts go the other way, no problemo (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 24, 14:39:32
        
        haha yes please!!! (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 15:04:53
        
        And if they dont, are people who think it's to many bigots? (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 24, 14:42:58
        
        This is my opinion why Labour has failed. (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 24, 14:29:00
  - Yeah yeah, I'm a tyrant blah blah blah. (General Chat) - King, Jun 24, 13:37:05
    - That's just a comedian's opinion not fact. (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 24, 13:42:28
I said to a Brexiter "prices will increase but your wages won't so it's like a wage cut" (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 12:31:27
- #guesswork (n/m) (NCFC) - trianglepatch, Jun 24, 15:25:14
- You reckon? (NCFC) - harry boulders, Jun 24, 12:49:34
- #larrytales (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Jun 24, 12:38:54
Corbyn's out next (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 24, 12:18:25
- Tim Farron feeling a bit left out. (n/m) (General Chat) - bird table, Jun 24, 12:27:31
  - I like Norman Lamb, he seems a decent chap. (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 24, 12:55:32
    - but he voted in favour of the NHS changes (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 13:10:23
I think there might be a big rush to get into the UK before the UK exits the EU (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 10:25:34
- Ha ha. Whatever for? Better off in an EU country. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 24, 16:44:10
- Probably a big rush to get out too. (n/m) (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Jun 24, 10:31:11
  - There'll be a huge rush across the border in Ireland now (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Jun 24, 10:47:30
    - But Boris Gove ans Farage have them under control now. (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 11:43:03
    - It's made me and the wife sit down and seriously consider applying for citizenship now (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Jun 24, 11:37:26
      - Where are you based hoots ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 24, 11:51:36
Spoke to some people in Norwich area............... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 10:16:26
- 350 billion lost in two hours thanks to Brexit = 40 yrs of Contributions to the EU (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 11:41:23
- Where do you do all this chatting Larry? (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Jun 24, 10:33:40
  - Black Cab Driver. (n/m) (NCFC) - Pixelman, Jun 24, 10:55:20
    - Larrold is black? (NCFC) - Chris Peacock, Jun 24, 11:00:01
      - Some of my best friends are (NCFC) - Pixelman, Jun 24, 11:05:15
- It's a vote for the workers someone told me today.... (n/m) (NCFC) - BSE Canary, Jun 24, 10:20:34
Farage is already claiming the ?350m a week for the NHS slogan was a 'mistake' (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 09:59:31
- Leave backtracking like fuck (n/m) (NCFC) - colincanary, Jun 24, 10:23:14
- A fucking lie morelike. Can't believe so many fell for a slimey ex hedge fund banker (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 10:13:38
  - The brexit campaign was all based upon lies because they couldn't win on facts (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 10:18:39
    - Farage admitted this morning the NHS 350m per week was bollocks (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 11:36:49
Perhaps there should be a basic exam test before people are allowed to vote? (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 09:54:16
- Is my vote ok when I vote labour at the next election,dimlo?! (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 24, 10:28:08
  - People should at least know some basic facts and policies (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 10:30:46
- Oh (NCFC) - CauldRon, Jun 24, 10:26:03
  - People should make an informed choice (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 10:28:25
    - I agree that we all needed more information and think that... (NCFC) - CauldRon, Jun 24, 10:47:03
      - Well said - too many on here pull the racist card for leavers (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 24, 11:57:20
- That's not very democratic Larry (NCFC) - Old Git, Jun 24, 09:59:02
  - Not very democratic if people don't know what they are voting for (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 10:01:05
    - tbf that's what democracy depends on (NCFC) - CWC, Jun 24, 10:09:37
      - so Larry are you an outer then ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 24, 11:55:30
      - If people were well informed then political parties would have to change to attract votes (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 10:21:54
Be funny to se the Eurocrats all blubbing at a disaster of their own (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 24, 09:45:58
- Except it will hurt us much more than it will them (General Chat) - King, Jun 24, 09:47:18
  - It could hurt them more than us, we are a nett importer. Euro stocks down more than FTSE (n/m) (General Chat) - trianglepatch, Jun 24, 09:55:55
  - Dont believe it... they are shitting themselves now...we got out in time (n/m) (General Chat) - promethian1, Jun 24, 09:50:00
  - Point is, you can't lay this at the EU's door (General Chat) - King, Jun 24, 09:48:33
    - No I know, but their attitude hasn't helped. It has cemented the (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 24, 09:52:29
    - Dont Agree, they could have prevented this happening by recognising our real problems (n/m) (General Chat) - promethian1, Jun 24, 09:52:22
      - how? (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 24, 10:13:53
        
        We are automatically at a disadvantage when it comes to migration (General Chat) - promethian1, Jun 24, 10:23:37
        
        Germany, Spain, and France all host more migrants than us (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 24, 10:39:31
        
        "We have a massive housing crisis, our support services are stretched to breaking" (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 24, 10:37:00
      - The Tories and biased media seem to be the problem (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 09:55:55
        
        For once, I agree with you Larrold (n/m) (General Chat) - King, Jun 24, 11:22:34
Yesterday I said.... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 07:48:18
- Blub (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Breadstick, Jun 24, 08:34:12
- Remain campaign failed to address immigration sufficiently (NCFC) - Jacksons_Twelfth, Jun 24, 07:57:16
  - I think so, (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Jun 24, 08:01:18
    - It's the whole reason why we had the Referendum in the first place isn't it? (NCFC) - Jacksons_Twelfth, Jun 24, 08:03:45
      - I think it was a half hearted attempt to address the perceived immigration problem, (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Jun 24, 08:21:34
  - Yeah f**king immigrated - coming over here caring for our sick & dying (n/m) (NCFC) - Mozzer, Jun 24, 07:59:30
    - since EU migrants are doing jobs they'll probably still be allowed in after we leave (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 24, 08:14:43
    - *immigration (n/m) (NCFC) - Mozzer, Jun 24, 08:00:18
  - Mail, Sun newspapers etc. backed Brexit, that was enough to make a difference (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 07:59:27
BBC are already blaming the SNP & Labour if Leave win....... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 03:11:49
- The people have spoken, we may not like it but there it is (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Jun 24, 04:17:26
Pound has dropped down 6% on the dollar in just a few mins (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 00:32:05
- But only back to where it was a couple of days ago (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jun 24, 00:34:33
  - Bankers cashing in on the markets (n/m) (NCFC) - hoolahan, Jun 24, 00:36:39
    - Farage and his mates basically (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 24, 02:08:51
As I said earlier...................... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 00:14:55
- You talk to a lot of people en (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Jun 24, 00:20:05
  - Eh* (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Jun 24, 00:20:25
    - Enough to know how people who don't know much about (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 24, 00:39:28
      - Good for you mate. (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Jun 24, 00:44:41
Thank fuck Cameron's in charge for another 4 years (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 23, 22:22:34
- No chance he'll stay for 4 years (General Chat) - Kangol Canary, Jun 23, 23:10:08
- Better than Boris. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 23, 22:37:40
  - We'll see in 4 years after this debacle. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 23, 22:46:52
    - Are the tories really in bits? You could argue that (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 23, 23:10:39
    - All depends on what Labour does about Corbyn (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 23, 22:55:05
      - Corbyn wants major EU reforms so he might do well... (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 23, 23:00:59
        
        EU and reform is pie in the sky. (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 23, 23:12:30
    - Labour has already lost the 2020 election. (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 23, 22:51:55
      - Even my Tory Councillor brother-in-law thinks that's not true. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 23, 23:01:53
      - Who will be the Tory leader at the 2020 election? (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 23, 22:56:22
        
        Doesnt matter (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 23, 23:20:29
  - Better than Labour (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 23, 22:40:11
What time are you staying up until? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 23, 21:43:46
- Back end of September. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Jun 23, 22:17:46
- Sunday morning (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 23, 22:05:13
- Going to bed soon... Up at 5.30 for work reckon by then it'llbe pretty clear (n/m) (General Chat) - Taxi 4 Johnson, Jun 23, 21:59:09
  - Farage's mini concession already (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 23, 22:03:35
- I like watching the poll they release on the news (n/m) (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jun 23, 21:58:27
- about mins 20 more max and then that's it (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 23, 21:57:22
  - me too (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Jun 23, 22:01:27
    - nice one, don't hog the duvet (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 23, 22:02:13
      - no danger of that (General Chat) - Charles21, Jun 23, 22:08:38
      - Too hot for duvets (n/m) (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jun 23, 22:07:08
- 23:00 (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Jun 23, 21:54:36
- See how it goes. (n/m) (General Chat) - Yellalee, Jun 23, 21:53:50
- Not a lot of point. You've gone and ruined it with the %s. You old bugged you. (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 23, 21:49:28
  - Lol (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 23, 21:51:51
- 8:30 (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jun 23, 21:44:18
- 9 (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jun 23, 21:44:02
Watching this fraternity thing on BBC 2, backs up that America is a rellly shite country. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jun 23, 21:38:25
- I like how American police call people "Sir" (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 23, 22:02:05
- I've been there a few times to a few different cities and had a brilliant time, meeting (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jun 23, 21:46:15
  - Bet you didn't go through Uni in the UK like these lot do bwod. Guns, bullying, welcome. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jun 23, 21:50:48
    - I'd quite like to turn up in their places and bite their necks and rip open their veins. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jun 23, 21:52:10
      - Oh dear, sounds awful. I'm glad I wasn't watching. I'm pleased to hear about the democrats (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jun 23, 21:56:38
        
        yep, saw that earlier. Democay in in practice. The epitome of. I won't take bulling... (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jun 23, 22:03:15
I've just seen some lightnINg over Norwich (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 23, 19:54:12
- That's you and Claire crossing streams........ (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Jun 23, 20:37:30
I voted for..................................... .... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 23, 19:38:03
- Is she thin at the mo ? And I hear she's an 'Outi' ! (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 23, 19:57:56
- I fookin knew it before I clicked... (NCFC) - usacanary, Jun 23, 19:42:37
Have just been speaking to some people going to vote............. (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 23, 16:45:35
- Do you take an interest in politics Larry? (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 23, 19:18:56
- I hope they all told you to fuck off. This is the most meaningless vote ever. (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Breadstick, Jun 23, 18:09:26
- I ended up voting IN because the EU will need a hand bitch slapping Putin (NCFC) - harry boulders, Jun 23, 16:53:08
  - I was thinking that on the way home. Putin will want the EU to split and start...... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 23, 17:04:57
    - The EU can do jack shit to Putin militarily - that's NATO's job. (NCFC) - Greeny, Jun 23, 17:19:22
      - Putin wants to some smaller countries cut off from EU trade so they (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 23, 17:38:51
      - Economic sanctions are arguably more effective than Nato (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 23, 17:38:20
    - You'll annoy Kirrie with this kind of talk. (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 23, 17:11:05
I still haven't heard any valid reasons why the UK would be better off out of the EU (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 23, 13:05:10
- Farage said if we Brexit he can afford to go to the dentist (NCFC) - usacanary, Jun 23, 17:23:23
- there arent any. people dont like foreigners (NCFC) - IG88, Jun 23, 13:54:41
- No point arguing over it now. The vote will decide. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 23, 13:34:48
  - Has everyone voted yet? (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jun 23, 13:36:57
    - Nope. Going to make sure that I am the very last person at my polling station (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 23, 13:41:27
- I know, you tell us every day (n/m) (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Jun 23, 13:25:42
- It's not a numbers game, it's a question of who comes. Whether the UK (NCFC) - dennis moore, Jun 23, 13:22:25
  - yes, they would still want to trade with us (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 23, 13:30:23
    - There is no EU-US trade deal at the moment. (NCFC) - Greeny, Jun 23, 13:44:53
  - "other EU countries would want to continue free trade" (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 23, 13:29:27
    - Well I think the Germans basically call the tune. I strongly their economic (NCFC) - dennis moore, Jun 23, 13:35:53
      - EU voting records show that Germany & UK are on the losing side most (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 23, 13:50:36
      - There isn't a single EU trade deal with any bloc or country not involving taxes or tariffs (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Jun 23, 13:49:56
      - well they are the ones who would be most pissed off at us leaving (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 23, 13:41:43
        
        No Germany don't have individual allies, it's what the EU is for (NCFC) - harry boulders, Jun 23, 13:48:45
        
        ??????? (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 23, 13:49:56
      - *strongly suspect* (n/m) (NCFC) - dennis moore, Jun 23, 13:38:25
- the first three paragraphs here make a pretty compelling case imo (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jun 23, 13:15:45
  - he talks a lot of sense until he starts babbling on about Tories and reveals (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 23, 13:38:21
  - The utters and xenophobes have ensured that leave will poll 40% plus (NCFC) - norway, Jun 23, 13:36:33
    - so you consider the best part of 14,000,000 people to be nutters and xenophobes? Talk abou (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 23, 13:41:45
      - judging a whole group of people by the abhorrant views of a small minority? (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 23, 13:58:04
        
        No I wouldn't (although suspect you are about to pull a post (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 23, 14:01:17
        
        i could, but it's better that we pull together Jim, prove that we're better than that (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 23, 14:13:38
        
        Except maybe Ipswich fans.... (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 23, 14:04:23
      - No I don't consider 14m to be nutters and xenophobes (NCFC) - norway, Jun 23, 13:53:03
        
        Ok - sorry thats what it sounded like. I don't think its xenophobic or (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 23, 13:59:13
        
        No worries Jim. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jun 23, 14:13:04
      - yes, because that would be impossible (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 23, 13:48:40
        
        I do quite like the fact that... (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 23, 14:35:55
      - Absolutely. The bien pensant right-on attitude of such people makes me really, (NCFC) - dennis moore, Jun 23, 13:46:57
        
        Which is absolutely what I haven't done - but do carry on. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jun 23, 13:53:40
        
        You've just called 25% of the people who want out as such. (n/m) (NCFC) - dennis moore, Jun 23, 14:08:02
        
        No I haven't. Read my posts. Jim understood. Read my posts. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jun 23, 14:12:43
        
        You said that without nutters & xenophobes leave would have polled (NCFC) - dennis moore, Jun 23, 14:42:46
        
        Pick the option which you like the most. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jun 23, 14:51:59
        
        Irrelevant. I'm trying to understand what you're saying. (n/m) (NCFC) - dennis moore, Jun 23, 14:54:21
        
        Well, no. He hasn't. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jun 23, 14:12:14
        
        I must have misread the post then cause that what appeared to say . (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 23, 17:26:40
      - the leaders are, not the voters (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jun 23, 13:45:00
    - yep, depressing isn't it? (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jun 23, 13:38:30
  - here's his most recent column (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 23, 13:28:27
    - yep, basically more of the same argument (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jun 23, 13:35:58
  - well he explains some problems (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 23, 13:27:03
    - His point is that the EU is not democratic and categorically does not serve (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jun 23, 13:33:46
      - well that's the point (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 23, 13:39:47
        
        Not sure about that - the EU at its heart is a neo-liberal trading block (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jun 23, 13:43:22
        
        yes, it would (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 23, 13:54:06
        
        don't agree with that (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jun 23, 13:58:21
        
        trouble is if the money isn't there that 'equality' just ends up as 'everybody poor' (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 23, 14:10:07
        
        well this is much more of an ideological debate (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jun 23, 14:16:18
        
        well of course there are (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 23, 14:24:54
        
        agreed, but then the question is whether it is easier (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jun 23, 14:33:51
        
        clearly won't happen overnight (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 23, 14:41:26
      - It would also perhaps to be fair to say that his views are identical to Johnson and Gove (NCFC) - norway, Jun 23, 13:35:30
        
        well yes, his views are similar in that one respect (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jun 23, 13:38:07
        
        well no, actually it is for exactly the same reason (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 23, 14:04:09
        
        that doesn't make sense (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jun 23, 14:11:59
        
        it's the same reason - they dislike it because it is overwelmingly centrist (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 23, 14:18:48
        
        Paul Mason is an interesting guy though (NCFC) - norway, Jun 23, 13:49:36
        
        yeah, he's certainly got non-mainstream views for the UK at this present time (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jun 23, 14:01:28
  - why hasn't he replaced the British government yet? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 23, 13:25:50
- TAKING BACK CONTYRO (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jun 23, 13:09:32
  - CONTROL AS WELL (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jun 23, 13:09:46
    - Control of what? (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 23, 13:11:48
      - PUTTING THE GREAT BACK IN TO BRITAIN (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jun 23, 13:35:45
        
        TAKE BACK ARE CUNTRY! (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 23, 14:47:49
        
        BriGreattian? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 23, 13:50:34
      - I'm not sure the veto cannot be circumvented? Isn't there something about (NCFC) - dennis moore, Jun 23, 13:26:46
        
        QMV is used for most things, as you'd expect (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 23, 13:34:47
        
        Is this like the Hose of Lords not voting against the Commons on (NCFC) - dennis moore, Jun 23, 13:41:44
RE Best breakfast cafe in Norwich........................... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 21, 21:48:49
- Are they got cool 40 somethings? (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 21, 21:52:14
  - for ffs. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 21, 21:52:27
Foul throws left and right this tournament (Other Football) - CauldRon, Jun 21, 21:46:17
- Does Neyul Adams know what they do in traynun? (n/m) (Other Football) - Larry Hagman, Jun 21, 21:50:23
Does Hoddle ever stop talking rubbish? (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 20, 22:09:50
- Come on Eileen! (n/m) (NCFC) - archroy, Jun 20, 22:41:39
- no (NCFC) - KevinBond, Jun 20, 22:24:16
Democracy............................... ....... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 20, 12:52:47
Brexit - read this, in a nutshell (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 20, 12:04:43
- no (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 20, 13:11:58
- "I am willing to take the calculated risk..." (General Chat) - Verity Lines, Jun 20, 12:41:42
- Why isn't the remain campaign called Bremain? (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Jun 20, 12:32:54
  - "Then I saw his face... now I'm a Breleaver." (n/m) (General Chat) - Pixelman, Jun 20, 12:39:04
- The UK has an EU veto vote so nothing much happens unless the UK agrees to it (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 20, 12:27:41
  - Indeed. Very privileged position in the EU and should man up and lead it. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 12:40:12
    - Very Much This (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 20, 13:18:57
- The heading already prevented me reading further (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 12:05:26
  - always best to read things which confirm the view you already hold (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 20, 12:27:31
    - No I've read all sides. But the headline is already incorrect. (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 12:44:14
    - "I urge nobody to follow my example." i trust you will be doing exactly that then? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 12:43:51
      - I'm not following his or anyone else's example (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 20, 13:20:25
  - the fact that our parliment voted to have this referendum is proof of its supremecy (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 12:09:15
    - Obviously - but that's not what he means (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 20, 12:26:35
      - What does he mean then ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 12:40:38
        
        maybe this would be the point at which to read the article ... (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 20, 13:21:32
        
        Isn't that against the whole spirit of the referendum?! (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 13:57:26
        
        Ha! I'm glad we agree about something!! (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 20, 14:50:29
    - EU rules that apply here only do so because of a law passed by our Parliament (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 20, 12:17:43
      - depends on if they are Regulations or Directives (or ECJ Decisions) (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 20, 15:34:49
      - yes but we are under a duty to transpose EU Directives into our own law and if (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 20, 14:18:41
        
        yes, but we passed a law making that the case (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 20, 15:09:53
Immigration............................. ...... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 20, 11:11:37
- They'll also be disappointed as it won't have half the impact on immigration that they (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 11:19:54
  - And if they think the Australian immigration system is the answer to all problems, (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Jun 20, 11:50:17
  - None of the main UK political parties want to cut immigration (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 20, 11:39:15
    - "Most immigrants are from outside the UK". Well... cant argue with that Larrard. (n/m) (NCFC) - Pixelman, Jun 20, 12:10:16
      - EU (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 20, 12:28:08
    - Indeed (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 11:44:36
  - I doubt that tbh (n/m) (NCFC) - harry boulders, Jun 20, 11:27:26
    - Why ? On what do you base that ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 11:44:13
      - Not for a second do I think. The Dutch will boot Brits out if the left the EU (NCFC) - harry boulders, Jun 20, 11:53:03
        
        I was more asking about the facts on which you base that opinion... (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 12:04:43
        
        So where's your evidence you'd be forced to come back (NCFC) - harry boulders, Jun 20, 12:09:29
        
        Dutch residency rules require the following: (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 12:37:31
Still not sure which way to vote. Leave or Remain. So much nonsense and lies on both sides (General Chat) - Pit, Jun 20, 10:26:28
- FAO: undecideds - a nice brief quick fire question round to each side here (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 20, 11:41:56
- all our best friends in the world strongly want us to remain (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 20, 11:35:22
  - Balls to the best friends. What about Lenwade Dinosaur Park? (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Jun 20, 11:55:45
    - Petits Animal Adventure Park (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 20, 12:23:00
- all our b (n/m) (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 20, 11:33:57
- Remember: "an idea isn't responsible for the people who believes (General Chat) - dennis moore, Jun 20, 11:28:56
  - *believe* (n/m) (General Chat) - dennis moore, Jun 20, 11:29:41
- If you're Labour through and through you wouldn't vote remain (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 20, 10:57:56
  - You think we would become like Spain/Greece? We have our own currency btw (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 20, 11:40:25
    - If we didn't, there would have been a U introduced in PIGS a few years back. It was that (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 12:14:54
    - So it was good the EU bailed out Greece, in effect making everybody else pay for (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 20, 11:48:01
      - nah, they're paying for the crap banks that lent to them... (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 12:10:41
        
        Banks/Bankers (excessive risk taking) broke the economy, not the EU, not migrants etc (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 20, 12:20:22
        
        "Farage Is A Millionaire Banker" (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 20, 12:24:16
  - and yet the Greek people would overwhelmingly vote to remain (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 20, 11:32:44
    - that's not true - at least not for Spain (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 20, 11:39:16
      - it is always true that extremists on both sides want to leave and moderates to stay (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 20, 11:42:17
        
        the left wing in Spain are not extremists (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 20, 11:45:33
        
        from an economic viewpoint the EU is more favourable to the working classes than the Torie (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 12:00:17
        
        absolutely; the fact that the debate has been comprehensively taken over (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 20, 12:04:13
        
        Johnson + co talk about regaining "control" (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 20, 12:21:22
        
        i've just had the following tweeted into my timeline which you might find interesting (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 12:15:21
        
        thanks for that, is an interesting piece (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 20, 12:22:54
        
        Which is why most extremists want us to leave (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 20, 11:44:00
  - EU =/= Euro (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 20, 11:08:25
    - EXACTLY! (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 20, 11:40:59
    - don't think they have deep structural problems (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 20, 11:22:20
      - They do/did have big problems with large scale tax avoidance. (General Chat) - APB, Jun 20, 13:20:19
        
        fair point (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 20, 13:57:50
    - Not to mention deep structural problems in them actually paying tax (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 11:18:35
- This is good but long. Worth it though. (General Chat) - APB, Jun 20, 10:54:39
  - Chairs. will read and think (n/m) (General Chat) - Pit, Jun 20, 11:30:30
    - Watch. It's a video (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 11:36:07
      - is there a non-video, written version? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 11:43:41
        
        Not that I've seen (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 12:50:42
  - Shared that. Cheers (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 11:26:53
  - the government get to borrow money cheaper now, based on those long term benefits (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 10:57:29
    - That's as maybe but I wasn't thinking of government (General Chat) - APB, Jun 20, 10:59:19
      - ok, the government spend money on and for normal people (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 11:08:06
    - debt repayment? interest is what i meant (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 10:58:25
- The UK has the best of both worlds at the moment................... (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 20, 10:51:55
  - Yes really makes no sense to leave other than an emotional sense of bravado (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 10:53:58
    - Cutting nose off to spite face? (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 20, 11:44:54
    - there's a fair argument in terms of democratic accountability (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 20, 11:10:09
      - But what remain have managed to successfully bury is that even those (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 20, 11:15:39
        
        link please (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 11:50:21
- Vote for the reasons to vote for, not the personalities. Vote remain. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 10:45:50
  - Exactly this! Trying to vote based on personalities in this vote is futile, (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Jun 20, 10:56:13
    - Its uncertainty causing this. nothing do do with in or out. (General Chat) - Pit, Jun 20, 11:10:36
      - Leave = Uncertainty, so yes you're right that it's uncertainty that's casuing this (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 11:56:04
      - No, it is all to do with 'confidence' in how the UK would be outside of the EU (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 20, 11:17:11
        
        no. (n/m) (General Chat) - Pit, Jun 20, 11:23:45
        
        stock markets are a gamble based upon 'confidence' of what will happen in the future (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 20, 11:44:15
        
        You're saying the same thing. Confidence = considerable degree of certainty. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 12:10:49
      - Sure, I know what you're saying and you're right. (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Jun 20, 11:16:39
    - We had a recession,that was worse than the impact being predicted if we leave..... (General Chat) - yellowman, Jun 20, 11:09:20
    - Lol the pound and stock market are up and down regardless (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 20, 11:03:29
      - One thing i think it completely wrong is that the financial institutions are allowed to (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 20, 11:16:57
        
        Everyone knows the likely result is remain (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 20, 11:38:35
        
        I get the feeling that it has changed. Seriously. Have been investigating the cases for (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 12:09:30
    - Punctuation. (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Jun 20, 11:00:24
- There really is not a lot of certainties with a leave vote, despite what both sides claim (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Jun 20, 10:43:31
  - Not to mention all of the expert economic bodies too! (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 20, 12:25:22
    - Cor yeah....forgot about them..... (General Chat) - yellowman, Jun 20, 13:00:09
  - several of them aren't being entirely honest .... (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 20, 11:35:08
  - Because they see an end to the gravy train..... (General Chat) - yellowman, Jun 20, 10:50:34
    - Thats an odd one for me. Kinnock was a working class champion and now has his snout (General Chat) - Pit, Jun 20, 11:08:29
      - power corrupts (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Jun 20, 11:32:11
      - Politics int ut?...... (General Chat) - yellowman, Jun 20, 11:13:02
        
        Robin Cook. One of the few politicians I ever had any respect for. (n/m) (General Chat) - Pit, Jun 20, 11:23:10
        
        Actually yes and John smith..... (General Chat) - yellowman, Jun 20, 11:25:45
        
        Agree. 3 good eggs. (n/m) (General Chat) - Pit, Jun 20, 11:30:50
    - You have a low opinion of ALL of them leaders? (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Jun 20, 10:52:25
      - Yep...... (General Chat) - yellowman, Jun 20, 10:56:09
        
        I think you do a lot of them leaders an injustice (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Jun 20, 10:57:28
        
        Ok... (General Chat) - yellowman, Jun 20, 11:03:13
        
        Corbyn isn't all misty eyed over Europe, but thinks it's the best option (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Jun 20, 11:10:23
        
        Ok (n/m) (General Chat) - yellowman, Jun 20, 11:14:12
- When is the result announced? (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Jun 20, 10:41:06
  - agreed, sick to fucking death of it now (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 20, 10:50:49
- I have been firmly leave throughout the process but am having a last minute wobble (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 20, 10:33:00
  - The timing of anything is bad if you don't have a plan (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 10:47:04
    - But leave could never have a concrete plan because they will not necessarily (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 20, 11:12:50
  - I have been stay in but will now vote to leave, If I was selfish I would have to vote stay (General Chat) - lovely old job, Jun 20, 10:36:06
    - I've gone from stay to leave too. Heart over head decision for once (n/m) (General Chat) - Hulk Rules, Jun 20, 10:41:31
- You forgot our very own Ed Balls and Delia on remain side (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Jun 20, 10:27:47
You learn something new every day and today I learnt what a egg banjo sandwich is (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Jun 17, 23:25:01
- Strum it all away.. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Jun 17, 23:41:43
- Not had an egg and mayo sandwich for years, fancy one now. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jun 17, 23:38:10
  - best with prawn cocktail crisps in it too. Sounds weird but tastes great (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 17, 23:43:25
Lentil curries............................ (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 17, 23:11:57
So hard to choose...................... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 17, 23:01:03
- My freezer meals this week is this, so good Larry, you'd it... (NCFC) - DrDublin, Jun 17, 23:08:07
  - and recipie here.... (NCFC) - DrDublin, Jun 17, 23:08:54
    - Noooooo, I dunna eat meat (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 17, 23:14:01
      - aggh, forgot you're a vegiie! soz x (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Jun 17, 23:17:20
        
        Get a bag of them lentils from Mozzers, they are great (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 17, 23:25:46
Jo Cox sounds like a wonderful, kind woman. (General Chat) - norway, Jun 16, 18:02:22
- Yeh she sounds like exactly the kind of MPs we need far more of! (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 16, 19:53:22
- Agreed (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jun 16, 18:34:45
- Terribly sad - it's a horrible world we live in at times (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Jun 16, 18:30:24
- her husband's statement "...Hate doesn't have a creed, race or religion, it is poisonous." (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 16, 18:13:39
  - Not being funny and this is obviously very sad but how on earth can he make a statement (General Chat) - lurd, Jun 16, 18:30:25
    - I know I wouldn't have had the words. (n/m) (General Chat) - lovely old job, Jun 16, 18:32:48
  - That is absolutely amazing. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jun 16, 18:28:03
  - incredible words and courage, what a spiteful world we live in. (n/m) (General Chat) - lovely old job, Jun 16, 18:25:38
  - It's been such a difficult year for me and my family and that has made me cry. (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jun 16, 18:25:32
    - i've had to go find Scrampton Jnr Jnr and give him a great big hug (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 16, 18:40:48
  - Absolutely tragic (General Chat) - camcan, Jun 16, 18:19:36
- It's appalling (n/m) (General Chat) - colincanary, Jun 16, 18:05:06