As far as I can see, the rules don't actually say anything about this situation

first - the actual offside rule itself:

"A player is in an offside position if he is nearer to his opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent"

then rule 11.4 - says if you step off the pitch deliberately to make someone offside, you get booked (and the player is still onside).
No-one's suggesting Panucci did that, and he wasn't booked.

But just because 11.4 wasn't broken, doesn't mean RVN was offside.

What we want to know is - if a player goes *accidentally* behind the line - as in this case - are they still active, and therefore can play someone onside? I can't see any rule that says either they are or they aren't.

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on June 10th 2008 at 12:43:37

Message Thread

If it's what some of you want, cos I'm a good bloke, I'm wrong about the rule (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Jun 10, 12:21:09
- It seems that (General Chat) - Cannydc, Jun 10, 12:31:11
- I've just read the Laws of the Game on FIFA's website (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 10, 12:26:23
  - It's on page 102... (General Chat) - Declan, Jun 10, 12:31:25
    - He was pushed. (General Chat) - Cannydc, Jun 10, 12:42:00
      - "in order to place an opponent in an offside position" (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 10, 12:47:34
    - Well, by that rule he definitely *was* offside and Keith Hackett is full of shit. (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 10, 12:36:05
      - As far as I can see, the rules don't actually say anything about this situation (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 10, 12:43:37
        
        But I thought you were saying it was all so simple? (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 10, 12:47:27
        
        well that would clinch it, but where did you see that? (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 10, 12:50:53
        
        ah - just seen the ref to that on the beeb website (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 10, 12:54:19
        
        Ridiculous (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 10, 12:57:47
        
        Only all over the entire web (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 10, 12:52:17
        
        Only no-one can find that quote in any of the rules (n/m) (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Jun 10, 12:53:34
        
        exactly (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 10, 12:55:40
        
        Yes, I'd agree with that - it's massively unclear (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Jun 10, 12:59:39
        
        I guess one thing... (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 10, 13:10:07
        
        that's probably true (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 10, 13:05:02
        
        Nope (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 10, 12:55:20
        
        and that bloke is referring to the rule we've all seen (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 10, 12:58:14
        
        Well he's obviously not, actually (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 10, 13:07:13
        
        scroll down to page 102 and it's there. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 10, 13:08:23
        
        No it isn't, fuckwit (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 10, 13:13:04
        
        oh, acksherly that's a different version to the one I was looking at before (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 10, 13:12:36
        
        Actually, my brother is a qualified ref. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jun 10, 13:21:47
        
        Oh loo, you've done it again, another admission in breach of WOTB protocol (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 10, 13:14:36
        
        (so he obviously is, actually.) (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 10, 13:08:53
        
        I might take this to the European Court (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Jun 10, 13:08:13
        
        The noise you just heard was OG falling off his chair at the word "free". (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jun 10, 13:10:25
        
        The word "free" causes me physical pain in this context (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 10, 13:13:35
      - So will the goal now be dis-allowed? (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 10, 12:38:39
      - Ah, but see Jim's "ref can do he likes" rule (n/m) (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Jun 10, 12:37:47
    - And if he'd deliberately jumped in the stand he'd have more than likely been cautioned! (n/m) (General Chat) - Declan, Jun 10, 12:32:12
- Oi (n/m) (General Chat) - iwans_ex_dentist, Jun 10, 12:23:42
  - scream for cream (General Chat) - pants, Jun 10, 12:24:35
    - Tears for Fears (n/m) (General Chat) - iwans_ex_dentist, Jun 10, 12:25:00
      - now if we were playing mallets mallet, you'd get a bonk on the head (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Jun 10, 12:28:35
        
        Timmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaay (n/m) (General Chat) - iwans_ex_dentist, Jun 10, 12:29:34
- Diddums :-) (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 10, 12:22:27

Reply to Message

In order to add a post to the WotB Message Board you must be a registered WotB user.

If you are not yet registered then please visit the registration page. You should ensure that their browser is setup to accept cookies.