Thing is, Duff Jimmy IS experienced

And talks a whole lot of sense too. But he's also Mr Relegation. I agree about the passion thing: what we want to see as a bare minimum is the manager making the best of a bad job. But what worries me is I sense certain players just don't buy into it: they don't believe in Grant, and if anything, are as waylaid by the general sense of decay and decline as the supporters are.

Up to Grant to sort it out, somehow. I have serious doubts, of course I do - but the first year in a three year plan is ALWAYS the hardest bit, especially if you've lost players of quality and have just run out of the parcahute payments which were enabling you to keep your heads above water. It'll be tough, but we need to stick with it: I believe Levein would have turned Leicester round if he'd been given a proper chance, and Grant deserves the same.

Posted By: thebigfeller on September 23rd 2007 at 21:35:41

Message Thread

Picture the scene (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Sep 23, 21:13:37
- sorry mate but unfortunately there's a few flaws to your (NCFC) - Chopper, Sep 24, 09:09:18
- yes thats all well and good (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 24, 04:51:06
- Well-written bigfeller but (NCFC) - BillySteele, Sep 23, 21:33:47
  - Who, Billy? Who would be this experienced campaigner? (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Sep 23, 21:38:57
    - Well I'd accept Joe Royle or (NCFC) - BillySteele, Sep 23, 22:00:09
      - Loads of people could be worse. It's a very difficult job (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Sep 23, 22:04:06
        
        No I really don't agree. It would be hard to (NCFC) - BillySteele, Sep 23, 22:27:28
- But.. (NCFC) - Bonzo, Sep 23, 21:32:23
  - Of course, there are always crunch games in this kind of situation (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Sep 23, 21:40:35
  - Wasn't there yesterday, but was at Charlton (NCFC) - Partial Angler, Sep 23, 21:39:22
    - Wolves was worse than Charlton (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Sep 23, 21:45:17
    - Brilliant post, PA - agree 100%. I missed Wolves but went to Charlton too ... (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 23, 21:41:43
- In what do sense do we have "serious financial problems"? (NCFC) - Orlando, Sep 23, 21:31:12
  - We have serious constraints... (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Sep 23, 21:49:38
  - Everyone keeps citing Blackpool as an example of a club on very limited means ... (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 23, 21:34:38
    - Yes - one that interferes and has dangerously high expectations too (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Sep 23, 21:41:45
    - Hmm, unless I've missed something, they didn't spend big at all in the summer? (n/m) (NCFC) - Orlando, Sep 23, 21:36:22
      - I don't think they spent much, but they're financially very secure (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 23, 21:37:29
        
        Well, for Blackpool, read Colchester, Plymouth, Burnley....point still stands I think (n/m) (NCFC) - Orlando, Sep 23, 21:38:46
        
        Yes, it does... (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Sep 23, 21:45:34
        
        "Fans demand far more" - this is the one that really annoys me I'm afraid (NCFC) - Orlando, Sep 23, 21:54:43
        
        And to answer your second point: (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Sep 23, 22:01:55
        
        But I'm not sure if that is realistic in a first season minus parachute payments... (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Sep 23, 21:57:29
        
        I really, really think you're overestmating the strength of this division... (NCFC) - Orlando, Sep 23, 22:00:46
        
        Yes, I suppose I'm being rather pedantic really. (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 23, 21:40:10
- Very good post but not everyone can see from that perspective. (NCFC) - lurd, Sep 23, 21:20:54
  - During pre season, and hearing what Grant was saying (NCFC) - trueyellow, Sep 23, 21:29:19
    - Pre-season i was really optimistic. (NCFC) - lurd, Sep 23, 21:38:20
    - Thing is, Duff Jimmy IS experienced (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Sep 23, 21:35:41
- Can someone read this then give me the edited highlights please? (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Sep 23, 21:20:47
  - Grant in (n/m) (NCFC) - Partial Angler, Sep 23, 21:26:43
  - keep the faith (n/m) (NCFC) - Dave in France, Sep 23, 21:25:57
    - Cheers. Will do. (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Sep 23, 21:28:18

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