That would be an unwanted but necessary consequence

Reform will have more seats because people will vote for them. On the flip side, so will the Greens and other fringe parties who have more support and fewer seats. We can't advocate for stronger democracy but only involving the parties we like. Ultimately, Reform seem to be being found out in the seats they do currently occupy. The quicker the rest of the country find that out, the better - hopefully before the next GE. If Reform win seats in by-elections between now and then, they'll quickly piss off the people that put them there.

Posted By: tim berry on September 5th 2025 at 14:09:53

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Rayner to go today - this article from the D Telegraph is damning (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 06:51:18
- The only thing that is damning here (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 11:56:39
  - It’s journalistic licence (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 12:22:12
    - Show me where I am defending Rayner? (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 12:30:55
      - I’ve never sold a house so can’t answer that question (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 12:39:16
        
        stone me (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 13:11:51
        
        Come on you’re clutching at straws to defend your beloved Angela now (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 13:24:03
        
        Again, show me any defence of her actual actions? (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 13:39:32
        
        Rayner's house is 30 per cent LARGER than others on the same street (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 13:57:55
        
        This does not equate to 30% extra value (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 17:05:46
        
        The valuation of the house is not the real issue (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 18:29:19
        
        I pay my taxes pure and simple (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 19:02:52
        
        Exactly the kind of non-answer a politician gives. (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 19:19:50
        
        You accused me of exploiting allowances bands and valuations (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 20:13:39
        
        Absolutely. If you don't exploit these then you are not (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 20:59:24
        
        Genuinely no red (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 21:02:24
        
        Mist here (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 21:02:53
        
        Just a white flag (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Sep 5, 23:03:37
        
        Not at all - you really are a prick (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 6, 12:29:29
        
        Great comeback 🥴 (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Sep 5, 13:35:35
        
        Not using your other login today? (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 17:06:59
        
        🤷‍♂️ (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Sep 5, 17:43:49
  - Here is a newspaper actively promoting tax avoidance on a second home (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 12:07:57
- She has stolen from her disabled child😡 (n/m) (General Chat) - KevinBond, Sep 5, 11:32:33
- The whole of parliament is awful. We desperately need an overhaul of things. (n/m) (General Chat) - Noah_Lahms, Sep 5, 10:36:45
  - We need to get rid of the FPTP system and replace with PR for a start (General Chat) - tim berry, Sep 5, 11:09:46
    - Unfortunately PR, which I’ve advocated for a long time, would’ve put a lot more Reformers (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Sep 5, 12:35:25
      - That would be an unwanted but necessary consequence (General Chat) - tim berry, Sep 5, 14:09:53
      - Yes but Reform are still having a disproportionate effect on our politics (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Sep 5, 12:48:49
    - FTP is outdated. SFTP protocol is more secure and the norm these days, (n/m) (General Chat) - Milko, Sep 5, 11:26:28
- We live in hope she goes. (General Chat) - Disco, Sep 5, 09:30:12
  - Which ones do you respect? (General Chat) - footymadman, Sep 5, 10:07:11
- I’m sure the papers will be equally frothing about Farage tax dodging (General Chat) - Tressells Broadbrush, Sep 5, 09:07:40
  - Just out of interest how much tax do you pay when taking money out of a Ltd co? (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 09:40:11
  - He's not the Deputy Prime Minister (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 5, 09:37:28
  - Double standards (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Sep 5, 09:23:27
- You've been as naughty as the telegraph! (General Chat) - trafford_canary, Sep 5, 08:00:21
  - It's still not great though (General Chat) - Kangol Canary, Sep 5, 08:56:59
  - Reporting which exposes tax evaders at the very least? (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 08:17:22
    - Avoidance not evasion!! Arrgghh grinds my gears this one (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 5, 09:52:38
      - ISAs, and other tax incentives, are not tax avoidance (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 5, 12:15:23
      - You are correct - slapped wrist (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 09:55:51
    - Using the telegraph as a news source (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 08:38:31
      - I don't read it but I do give it credit for exposing the MP expenses scandal (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 5, 09:36:35
      - It is infinitely better than YouTube videos or FB rants (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Sep 5, 08:49:22
        
        A posher version tbh (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 08:56:33
      - It's almost as dodgy for news as The Guardian (General Chat) - phrankin, Sep 5, 08:43:31
        
        100% agree. (n/m) (General Chat) - Milko, Sep 5, 11:30:52
        
        False equivalence Evidence? (General Chat) - Tressells Broadbrush, Sep 5, 09:26:59
    - I don't disagree. But there's some seriously dodgy reporting there (General Chat) - trafford_canary, Sep 5, 08:19:02
      - Course not (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Sep 5, 09:24:26
      - ... (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 09:06:28
        
        16 years ago (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 09:18:15
        
        best idea would be to exempt mp's from tax liabilities as they are serving their country (General Chat) - Tombs, Sep 5, 09:32:18
      - Is it seriously dodgy? (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 09:00:46
- Also in the future (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Sep 5, 06:59:35
- To read without a subscription smry.ai is useful as posted by AP last week (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 06:52:16
  - Fee evasion hypocrite. (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Sep 5, 09:24:58
    - I have a subscription - I appreciate many don’t (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 10:27:43
    - I’m just standing up against BIG PAPER! (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Sep 5, 10:21:57

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