We need to get rid of the FPTP system and replace with PR for a start

The fact that I want to vote for a certain party in my area but have to vote for a different party to keep out a party I don't want just isn't very democratic.

Posted By: tim berry on September 5th 2025 at 11:09:46

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Rayner to go today - this article from the D Telegraph is damning (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 06:51:18
- The only thing that is damning here (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 11:56:39
  - It’s journalistic licence (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 12:22:12
    - Show me where I am defending Rayner? (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 12:30:55
      - I’ve never sold a house so can’t answer that question (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 12:39:16
        
        stone me (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 13:11:51
        
        Come on you’re clutching at straws to defend your beloved Angela now (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 13:24:03
        
        Again, show me any defence of her actual actions? (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 13:39:32
        
        Rayner's house is 30 per cent LARGER than others on the same street (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 13:57:55
        
        This does not equate to 30% extra value (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 17:05:46
        
        The valuation of the house is not the real issue (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 18:29:19
        
        I pay my taxes pure and simple (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 19:02:52
        
        Exactly the kind of non-answer a politician gives. (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 19:19:50
        
        You accused me of exploiting allowances bands and valuations (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 20:13:39
        
        Absolutely. If you don't exploit these then you are not (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 20:59:24
        
        Genuinely no red (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 21:02:24
        
        Mist here (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 21:02:53
        
        Just a white flag (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Sep 5, 23:03:37
        
        Not at all - you really are a prick (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 6, 12:29:29
        
        Great comeback 🥴 (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Sep 5, 13:35:35
        
        Not using your other login today? (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 17:06:59
        
        🤷‍♂️ (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Sep 5, 17:43:49
  - Here is a newspaper actively promoting tax avoidance on a second home (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Sep 5, 12:07:57
- She has stolen from her disabled child😡 (n/m) (General Chat) - KevinBond, Sep 5, 11:32:33
- The whole of parliament is awful. We desperately need an overhaul of things. (n/m) (General Chat) - Noah_Lahms, Sep 5, 10:36:45
  - We need to get rid of the FPTP system and replace with PR for a start (General Chat) - tim berry, Sep 5, 11:09:46
    - Unfortunately PR, which I’ve advocated for a long time, would’ve put a lot more Reformers (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Sep 5, 12:35:25
      - That would be an unwanted but necessary consequence (General Chat) - tim berry, Sep 5, 14:09:53
      - Yes but Reform are still having a disproportionate effect on our politics (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Sep 5, 12:48:49
    - FTP is outdated. SFTP protocol is more secure and the norm these days, (n/m) (General Chat) - Milko, Sep 5, 11:26:28
- We live in hope she goes. (General Chat) - Disco, Sep 5, 09:30:12
  - Which ones do you respect? (General Chat) - footymadman, Sep 5, 10:07:11
- I’m sure the papers will be equally frothing about Farage tax dodging (General Chat) - Tressells Broadbrush, Sep 5, 09:07:40
  - Just out of interest how much tax do you pay when taking money out of a Ltd co? (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 09:40:11
  - He's not the Deputy Prime Minister (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 5, 09:37:28
  - Double standards (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Sep 5, 09:23:27
- You've been as naughty as the telegraph! (General Chat) - trafford_canary, Sep 5, 08:00:21
  - It's still not great though (General Chat) - Kangol Canary, Sep 5, 08:56:59
  - Reporting which exposes tax evaders at the very least? (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 08:17:22
    - Avoidance not evasion!! Arrgghh grinds my gears this one (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 5, 09:52:38
      - ISAs, and other tax incentives, are not tax avoidance (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 5, 12:15:23
      - You are correct - slapped wrist (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 09:55:51
    - Using the telegraph as a news source (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 08:38:31
      - I don't read it but I do give it credit for exposing the MP expenses scandal (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 5, 09:36:35
      - It is infinitely better than YouTube videos or FB rants (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Sep 5, 08:49:22
        
        A posher version tbh (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 08:56:33
      - It's almost as dodgy for news as The Guardian (General Chat) - phrankin, Sep 5, 08:43:31
        
        100% agree. (n/m) (General Chat) - Milko, Sep 5, 11:30:52
        
        False equivalence Evidence? (General Chat) - Tressells Broadbrush, Sep 5, 09:26:59
    - I don't disagree. But there's some seriously dodgy reporting there (General Chat) - trafford_canary, Sep 5, 08:19:02
      - Course not (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Sep 5, 09:24:26
      - ... (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 09:06:28
        
        16 years ago (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 09:18:15
        
        best idea would be to exempt mp's from tax liabilities as they are serving their country (General Chat) - Tombs, Sep 5, 09:32:18
      - Is it seriously dodgy? (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 09:00:46
- Also in the future (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Sep 5, 06:59:35
- To read without a subscription smry.ai is useful as posted by AP last week (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 06:52:16
  - Fee evasion hypocrite. (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Sep 5, 09:24:58
    - I have a subscription - I appreciate many don’t (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 5, 10:27:43
    - I’m just standing up against BIG PAPER! (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Sep 5, 10:21:57

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