But Smith and Scholes weren't established Prem players once

They both started out as youngsters without track records. My point is that they produced the goods - made names for themselves, and became hugely successful.

I wish I could name some talented Man Utd youngsters who didn't succeed after one or two games - there were loads in the mid 90s, but I can't remember any of them!

Posted By: Poirot on December 13th 2005 at 22:35:59

Message Thread

Rossi Jarvis is stalling because Ryan's career has gone tits up (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 21:28:41
- Ryan Jarvis will go somewhere else and score a shit load. (NCFC) - Ashton4England, Dec 14, 00:16:55
- Ryan J : 3 league STARTS 3 league goals - needs a run of games but will he get it under (NCFC) - oh arr, Dec 13, 23:18:03
- Can't blame him for taking his time... (NCFC) - Ben, Dec 13, 22:26:52
  - agreed - it says alot about this club at the moment (n/m) (NCFC) - oh arr, Dec 13, 23:18:44
- Ryan's big chance came this season (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, Dec 13, 21:40:31
  - Ryan Jarvis is finished at NCFC in my opinion (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 21:47:06
    - Ashton hasn't got pace and Thorne has an injury record before joining us (n/m) (NCFC) - oh arr, Dec 13, 23:21:47
    - Everything bar pace in my opinion (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, Dec 13, 21:55:25
      - If Jarvis bulked up, he would be a better player IMO (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:16:24
    - why has Jarvis got to "show it everytime" but ok for Thorne to be in constant "poor form" (n/m) (NCFC) - double hipness, Dec 13, 21:51:06
      - Because time is running out for Jarvis (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:00:25
        
        Ryan Jarvis DELIVERY : 3 starts + 5mins in a lot of games, 3 league goals !!! (NCFC) - oh arr, Dec 13, 23:26:25
        
        So basically (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 22:02:42
        
        well said Riverking (n/m) (NCFC) - oh arr, Dec 13, 23:27:02
        
        Only giving benefit of doubt as he has a successful track record (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:06:54
        
        and Thorne has a track record of being injury prone (n/m) (NCFC) - oh arr, Dec 13, 23:27:49
        
        That was the only game as far as I can recall - (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Dec 13, 22:18:35
        
        yeah - but just imagine if Hendo had bagged a couple of goals (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:32:23
        
        Hendo did bag a couple of goals once - (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Dec 13, 22:37:06
        
        Well that's why Hendo has a long run in the team a few years back (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:41:44
        
        against Millwall you mean (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Dec 13, 22:38:53
        
        D'oh ! (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Dec 13, 22:42:41
        
        At least Henderson has a bit of fight and grit to his game (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 22:34:17
        
        I agree (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:38:04
        
        You're judging him one game 2 years ago (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, Dec 13, 22:13:23
        
        I'll try and explain what a youth player has to do to succeed (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:28:04
        
        Well, yes (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, Dec 13, 22:38:44
        
        I always think that 'Youth international' tag is a complete red herring (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:48:42
        
        To be fair... (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 22:31:10
        
        But Smith and Scholes weren't established Prem players once (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:35:59
        
        Mulryne & Notman are two names that come to mind : - (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Dec 13, 22:40:52
        
        Jarvis... (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 22:05:07
        
        YES! (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:09:21
        
        It must be hard though (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 22:13:33
        
        Very very frustrating for the young player (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:30:38
- hmm (NCFC) - double hipness, Dec 13, 21:34:34
  - He had a hamstring problem (n/m) (NCFC) - Knee Jerk Reaction, Dec 13, 21:44:35
  - He wasn't fit enough to start (NCFC) - trt354, Dec 13, 21:42:55
    - why put a player who isn't fit on the bench (n/m) (NCFC) - double hipness, Dec 13, 21:45:23
      - Huckerby V Crewe? (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 21:48:37
        
        Great example mate (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 21:50:00
        
        why not start with Hucks (NCFC) - double hipness, Dec 13, 21:54:13
        
        But he was injured Saturday... (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 21:58:27
  - Ryan is a good player... (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 21:39:49
    - Still reckon Spillane is better (NCFC) - trt354, Dec 13, 21:44:23
      - Havent seen Spillane much (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 21:45:59
        
        I would like City to sign Rossi J and Spillane (n/m) (NCFC) - oh arr, Dec 13, 23:32:06
        
        My view on them for what its worth (NCFC) - trt354, Dec 13, 21:52:20
        
        Some reports on the Pink Un message board (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 21:50:48
  - Agree on your first point (NCFC) - T 07, Dec 13, 21:37:55
    - I do want Rossi to stay... (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 21:42:55

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