Because time is running out for Jarvis

Firstly, I agree, it's not ok for Thorne to be in constant poor form of course - it is unacceptable - and he should be dropped if it continues. My point concerning Thorne is that historically he has cut it at this level. And unless he is completely over the hill (which I'm saying he isn't giving him the benefit of the doubt), as form is termporary, and talent permanent, he will begin to show us why he has been successful at this level. Plus, he isn't being helped by the general performance/lack of ability in our midfield. But he has looked okay at winning long balls, something Ashton isn't so good at.

As for Jarvis, he has no track record to show. He has to create one and show people that he is good enough for this level. And as the first team players have proven themselves, you need to prove you are better than them. But young players only get into poor teams (as first teamers aren't producing), or when first team players get injured/suspended. And when your chance comes along - YOU HAVE TO SHOW YOU CAN DELIVER. You will not get many chances. And I'm not convinced Jarvis has taken his chances. He's hardly set the world on fire when he's played. He needs to do something to make him undroppable. And he simply hasn't. Bellamy only needed a few games to start bagging goals, and showing pace and edge - he was undroppable when he emerged. Jarvis sadly hasn't convinced.

Posted By: Poirot on December 13th 2005 at 22:00:25

Message Thread

Rossi Jarvis is stalling because Ryan's career has gone tits up (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 21:28:41
- Ryan Jarvis will go somewhere else and score a shit load. (NCFC) - Ashton4England, Dec 14, 00:16:55
- Ryan J : 3 league STARTS 3 league goals - needs a run of games but will he get it under (NCFC) - oh arr, Dec 13, 23:18:03
- Can't blame him for taking his time... (NCFC) - Ben, Dec 13, 22:26:52
  - agreed - it says alot about this club at the moment (n/m) (NCFC) - oh arr, Dec 13, 23:18:44
- Ryan's big chance came this season (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, Dec 13, 21:40:31
  - Ryan Jarvis is finished at NCFC in my opinion (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 21:47:06
    - Ashton hasn't got pace and Thorne has an injury record before joining us (n/m) (NCFC) - oh arr, Dec 13, 23:21:47
    - Everything bar pace in my opinion (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, Dec 13, 21:55:25
      - If Jarvis bulked up, he would be a better player IMO (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:16:24
    - why has Jarvis got to "show it everytime" but ok for Thorne to be in constant "poor form" (n/m) (NCFC) - double hipness, Dec 13, 21:51:06
      - Because time is running out for Jarvis (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:00:25
        
        Ryan Jarvis DELIVERY : 3 starts + 5mins in a lot of games, 3 league goals !!! (NCFC) - oh arr, Dec 13, 23:26:25
        
        So basically (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 22:02:42
        
        well said Riverking (n/m) (NCFC) - oh arr, Dec 13, 23:27:02
        
        Only giving benefit of doubt as he has a successful track record (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:06:54
        
        and Thorne has a track record of being injury prone (n/m) (NCFC) - oh arr, Dec 13, 23:27:49
        
        That was the only game as far as I can recall - (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Dec 13, 22:18:35
        
        yeah - but just imagine if Hendo had bagged a couple of goals (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:32:23
        
        Hendo did bag a couple of goals once - (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Dec 13, 22:37:06
        
        Well that's why Hendo has a long run in the team a few years back (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:41:44
        
        against Millwall you mean (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Dec 13, 22:38:53
        
        D'oh ! (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Dec 13, 22:42:41
        
        At least Henderson has a bit of fight and grit to his game (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 22:34:17
        
        I agree (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:38:04
        
        You're judging him one game 2 years ago (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, Dec 13, 22:13:23
        
        I'll try and explain what a youth player has to do to succeed (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:28:04
        
        Well, yes (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, Dec 13, 22:38:44
        
        I always think that 'Youth international' tag is a complete red herring (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:48:42
        
        To be fair... (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 22:31:10
        
        But Smith and Scholes weren't established Prem players once (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:35:59
        
        Mulryne & Notman are two names that come to mind : - (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Dec 13, 22:40:52
        
        Jarvis... (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 22:05:07
        
        YES! (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:09:21
        
        It must be hard though (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 22:13:33
        
        Very very frustrating for the young player (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 22:30:38
- hmm (NCFC) - double hipness, Dec 13, 21:34:34
  - He had a hamstring problem (n/m) (NCFC) - Knee Jerk Reaction, Dec 13, 21:44:35
  - He wasn't fit enough to start (NCFC) - trt354, Dec 13, 21:42:55
    - why put a player who isn't fit on the bench (n/m) (NCFC) - double hipness, Dec 13, 21:45:23
      - Huckerby V Crewe? (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 21:48:37
        
        Great example mate (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 21:50:00
        
        why not start with Hucks (NCFC) - double hipness, Dec 13, 21:54:13
        
        But he was injured Saturday... (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 21:58:27
  - Ryan is a good player... (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 21:39:49
    - Still reckon Spillane is better (NCFC) - trt354, Dec 13, 21:44:23
      - Havent seen Spillane much (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 21:45:59
        
        I would like City to sign Rossi J and Spillane (n/m) (NCFC) - oh arr, Dec 13, 23:32:06
        
        My view on them for what its worth (NCFC) - trt354, Dec 13, 21:52:20
        
        Some reports on the Pink Un message board (NCFC) - Poirot, Dec 13, 21:50:48
  - Agree on your first point (NCFC) - T 07, Dec 13, 21:37:55
    - I do want Rossi to stay... (NCFC) - Riverking, Dec 13, 21:42:55

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