WotB Message Board
- To be fair, Klinsmann looks like he could still be playing (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 23:22:01
- Playing better than that Sousi bloke (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 22, 23:22:37
- Beckerman should have been sent off for that. Those are the moments when (Other Football) - pants, Jun 22, 23:17:08
- The comms don't really seem to have realised what he did. (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 23:19:15
- I'd forgotten how smugly incorrect Lawrenson is (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Jun 22, 23:23:44
- He's such a wanker (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 23:28:40
- Love how he defended Howard, even though he showed the whole goal to Nani (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Jun 22, 23:30:17
- He's such a wanker (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 23:28:40
- I'd forgotten how smugly incorrect Lawrenson is (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Jun 22, 23:23:44
- The comms don't really seem to have realised what he did. (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 23:19:15
- What is Klinsmann wearing? (n/m) (Other Football) - avid_canary, Jun 22, 23:10:09
- A man thong? (n/m) (Other Football) - Chris Peacock, Jun 22, 23:18:35
- US Swim Team 1926 (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 23:13:46
- Something very preppy (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jun 22, 23:12:30
- "Algeria beat the reigning world champions West Germany in 1982" (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 21:39:20
- he said it was the opening game too I think (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 22, 21:47:16
- ITV: "Probably the first truly impressive performance by an African team in this WC" (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 20:50:06
- Funny. I was just thinking South Korea are the most rubbish team at the tournament (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 22, 21:04:14
- What about England? (n/m) (Other Football) - Darren Eadie, Jun 22, 21:14:52
- They seem to be able to turn quickly (n/m) (Other Football) - Upperjarroldmiddle, Jun 22, 21:08:30
- Textbook (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 21:07:50
- Was a bit textbook wunt it? (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 22, 21:17:35
- Funny. I was just thinking South Korea are the most rubbish team at the tournament (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 22, 21:04:14
- 2-0 Algeria! (n/m) (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, Jun 22, 20:28:09
- ثلاثة! (n/m) (Other Football) - King, Jun 22, 20:38:33
- 3 (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 20:38:24
- look a good team (n/m) (Other Football) - yellows2011, Jun 22, 20:34:10
- Is Acle a Gangsta Paradise ? (n/m) (General Chat) - colincanary, Jun 22, 20:19:42
- Damn straight (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 20:35:52
- Good obviously links to the South Walsham mafia (n/m) (General Chat) - colincanary, Jun 22, 20:24:09
- yep they're like the Cosy Nostrils (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jun 22, 20:26:01
- I used to know a few of the Yaxham Yakuza. (n/m) (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jun 22, 20:29:53
- yep they're like the Cosy Nostrils (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jun 22, 20:26:01
- Yes. (n/m) (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jun 22, 20:21:04
- England are going to lose this test match (Other Sports) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 17:36:33
- It's essentially 68-4 with two full days play (Other Sports) - Mickdundee, Jun 22, 17:39:32
- Yeah, just about. Would get twitchy if they add another 120 though... (n/m) (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Jun 22, 17:41:41
- Would be interesting to see how Ballance. Robson etc (Other Sports) - norway, Jun 22, 17:43:27
- Yeah, just about. Would get twitchy if they add another 120 though... (n/m) (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Jun 22, 17:41:41
- It's essentially 68-4 with two full days play (Other Sports) - Mickdundee, Jun 22, 17:39:32
- Alternative commentary on the red button (Other Football) - emmaroyds, Jun 22, 17:25:36
- (not gonna my red button on stream joke again) (Other Football) - pants, Jun 22, 18:25:07
- He's ok... (Other Football) - norway, Jun 22, 17:27:34
- Was about to say - got no problems with him at all really. His Luddite moment was funny. (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Jun 22, 17:39:43
- He used to be an over-the-top jingoistic arsehole (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 17:38:41
- That was his Capital, Talksport style. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jun 22, 17:45:27
- I hope Johnathan Pearce can handle todays game. I heard he was at a filter light (General Chat) - pants, Jun 22, 17:16:08
- Traffic light filter please, Ben (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 17:33:05
- Car experts again please (General Chat) - Charles21, Jun 22, 16:31:11
- Possibly the 1 litre engine (General Chat) - emmaroyds, Jun 22, 16:37:15
- That's a bloody small engine... (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Jun 22, 16:56:30
- It's an ecoboost engine: they are designed that way (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 17:19:39
- I should point out I don't know jack about cars (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 17:35:14
- Not to carry his weight they're not (n/m) (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Jun 22, 17:23:14
- Good point. He should check the suspension too. (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 17:32:05
- So you think a Ford Transit is more his speed or something (General Chat) - usacanary, Jun 22, 17:25:33
- It's an ecoboost engine: they are designed that way (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 17:19:39
- Yep, one litre engine, plus petrol models much cheaper (General Chat) - norway, Jun 22, 16:55:54
- It's a good engine. The mileage is the reason for the price, I'd imagine. (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 22, 16:54:38
- light turbo (General Chat) - Wraith, Jun 22, 16:54:09
- That's a bloody small engine... (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Jun 22, 16:56:30
- Possibly the 1 litre engine (General Chat) - emmaroyds, Jun 22, 16:37:15
- Das Boo (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 21, 21:28:55
- This tournament has been utterly ace (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 21, 21:25:46
- Have that, Panda pops (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 21, 21:21:42
- Up yer bum (n/m) (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, Jun 21, 21:25:08
- gHAna (n/m) (Other Football) - Tony Martin, Jun 21, 21:11:38
- Textbook (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 21, 21:12:09
- Das Goal (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 21, 21:09:11
- He kinda fucked that but didn't at the same time (n/m) (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, Jun 21, 21:11:10
- Ghahahana (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jun 21, 21:09:54
- that wanker on the Xbox One advert is asking for a good smacking (n/m) (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 20, 21:03:19
- who the fuck is he? annoying twat. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 20, 21:25:43
- Jesse Pinkman (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 21:28:04
- Yo. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 20, 21:29:45
- Bitch (n/m) (General Chat) - Upperjarroldmiddle, Jun 20, 21:57:19
- Yo. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 20, 21:29:45
- Jesse Pinkman (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 21:28:04
- He's switching consoles on up and down the country... (General Chat) - bird table, Jun 20, 21:14:17
- The Breaking Bad dude? (General Chat) - Huge Small, Jun 20, 21:07:47
- yo that one (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jun 20, 21:08:42
- Should be shot in the face just for saying yoooooooooooo (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 20, 21:04:46
- He's referencing his Breaking Bad character's mode of speech. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jun 20, 21:06:52
- Ok shoot him for this instead (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 20, 21:10:11
- Don't have to look... Price Is Right. (General Chat) - norway, Jun 20, 21:11:00
- Drugs are bad! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 20, 21:13:49
- Don't have to look... Price Is Right. (General Chat) - norway, Jun 20, 21:11:00
- yo AB you iz da man innit bro (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jun 20, 21:07:41
- Ok shoot him for this instead (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 20, 21:10:11
- He's referencing his Breaking Bad character's mode of speech. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jun 20, 21:06:52
- who the fuck is he? annoying twat. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 20, 21:25:43
- Oh. 3-0. Shame. (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 20:40:17
- Why's it a shame? It was a lovely ghoul (n/m) (Other Football) - Huge Small, Jun 20, 20:41:41
- SHAME (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 20:42:06
- Pourquoi? (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 20:46:28
- Pourquoi? Pourquoi? (n/m) (Other Football) - Huge Small, Jun 20, 20:52:32
- pourquoi pas (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jun 20, 20:48:44
- Pourquoi (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 20:48:06
- ? (n/m) (Other Football) - Huge Small, Jun 20, 20:43:51
- ? (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 20:46:07
- One of the best team's in the tourny (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jun 20, 20:43:39
- I'm making a list of people who use the word 'tourny'. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 20, 20:46:05
- Not forgetting the punctuation violations (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Jun 20, 20:55:34
- Grown-ups should know better than to use a word like 'tourny'. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 20, 20:49:02
- Yikes!! (Other Football) - norway, Jun 20, 20:47:50
- I'm making a list of people who use the word 'tourny'. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 20, 20:46:05
- troll (Other Football) - Jumbo1, Jun 20, 20:42:40
- same user (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 20:43:26
- NO (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 20, 20:42:38
- Pourquoi? (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 20:46:28
- SHAME (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 20:42:06
- ALLEZ! (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 20, 20:41:39
- Why's it a shame? It was a lovely ghoul (n/m) (Other Football) - Huge Small, Jun 20, 20:41:41
- First missed pen of the tourny? (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 20:32:29
- Another opportunity lost for England (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 20:33:51
- It was saved (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 20, 20:33:34
- 'Tourny'. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 20, 20:33:10
- Yes. Paddington stare for that. (n/m) (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Jun 20, 20:34:46
- Sorry. (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 20:33:36
- LOOK LIKE YOU MEAN IT! (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 20, 20:35:00
- Mentioning Costa Rica to Scotland fans is not going to have the same impact now (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 19:24:32
- You can imagine them now (Other Football) - norway, Jun 20, 19:27:10
- my skotcheser mate rang me up today.... (Other Football) - Tombs, Jun 20, 19:36:52
- You can imagine them now (Other Football) - norway, Jun 20, 19:27:10
- Quiz question - last the time England had to play a WC game after being knocked out? (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jun 20, 19:15:04
- 1990? (n/m) (Other Football) - Huge Small, Jun 20, 19:18:41
- The one where they lost to the USA? (n/m) (Other Football) - bird table, Jun 20, 19:18:05
- 1990? (n/m) (Other Football) - Mecagoenti, Jun 20, 19:17:37
- Technically, had we been knocked out? (Other Football) - Arganth, Jun 20, 19:23:22
- as out as we are in this tournament (Other Football) - Mecagoenti, Jun 20, 19:29:20
- Very much out (Other Football) - norway, Jun 20, 19:25:13
- Sutton to play for though. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, Jun 20, 20:06:16
- *Tick* (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jun 20, 19:19:31
- Oh yeah, 3rd place against Italy (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 19:18:30
- Meaningless then (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 20, 19:19:19
- Technically, had we been knocked out? (Other Football) - Arganth, Jun 20, 19:23:22
- this is the first time i think (n/m) (Other Football) - South_West_Canary, Jun 20, 19:16:52
- Never? (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 19:16:14
- Don't know. When? (n/m) (Other Football) - Pink un exile, Jun 20, 19:16:01
- Team for Costa Rica (Other Football) - norway, Jun 20, 19:09:31
- Surely you mean Forster ?... (Other Football) - loz, Jun 20, 19:18:10
- And we'll get all excited when we beat a non trying Costa Rica. (n/m) (Other Football) - BINMEN8R, Jun 20, 19:17:37
- That would do for me (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 19:13:19
- Foster will play. Woy loves foster. (n/m) (Other Football) - Pink un exile, Jun 20, 19:15:22
- I only want one more thing out of this World Cup (Other Football) - oh huckerby, Jun 20, 19:04:59
- i'd quite like to see a team win who hent wunnit afore (Other Football) - Tombs, Jun 20, 19:09:38
- That would be nice, yes. (n/m) (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, Jun 20, 20:08:23
- The Netherhollands or Chile. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jun 20, 19:13:30
- oh yeah them. forgot they hent wunnit yet (Other Football) - Tombs, Jun 20, 19:16:23
- Red, white and blue flag - always wear orange. All of them. Even in bed. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jun 20, 19:29:27
- yep, the united states of easyjet (Other Football) - Tombs, Jun 20, 19:33:52
- The 'Low lands' or something too? (Other Football) - South_West_Canary, Jun 20, 19:21:41
- The Low Countries (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 19:23:11
- ah yeah (Other Football) - South_West_Canary, Jun 20, 19:24:39
- The Low Countries (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 19:23:11
- Lol (n/m) (Other Football) - South_West_Canary, Jun 20, 19:20:07
- Red, white and blue flag - always wear orange. All of them. Even in bed. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jun 20, 19:29:27
- oh yeah them. forgot they hent wunnit yet (Other Football) - Tombs, Jun 20, 19:16:23
- Dutchies look the best bet (Other Football) - Mecagoenti, Jun 20, 19:10:20
- Absolutely. I want to see that bastard distraught. (n/m) (Other Football) - Pink un exile, Jun 20, 19:06:31
- i'd quite like to see a team win who hent wunnit afore (Other Football) - Tombs, Jun 20, 19:09:38
- This is going to top 1988 for the most pisspoor performance at a major tournament (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 18:59:27
- Three teams in the top ten rankings (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 20, 19:01:11
- A fact that only serves to illustrate what a nonsense the rankings are (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 19:02:40
- Three teams in the top ten rankings (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 20, 19:01:11
- Shitaly. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jun 20, 18:58:45
- Pasta their best (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 20, 18:59:49
- Will they reach the gnocchi-out stage? (n/m) (Other Football) - bird table, Jun 20, 19:07:46
- Yes, the penne's dropped (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 19:00:44
- How far they've fallen (Other Football) - Old Man, Jun 20, 19:01:32
- Pasta their best (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 20, 18:59:49
- i really do not fucking like pants one iota (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 20, 09:58:48
- Lycra trunks (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 10:17:51
- I haven't got any pants on (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Jun 20, 10:07:09
- I was once asked for a blood, urine and semen sample. I gave them my pants (n/m) (General Chat) - Upperjarroldmiddle, Jun 20, 10:05:03
- Pants are American trousers. What are Y-fronts ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 20, 10:16:20
- Boxers are pants, aren't they? (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 09:59:47
- Where do boxer briefs fit in all this? (General Chat) - bird table, Jun 20, 10:22:51
- boxer SHORTS (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 20, 10:01:41
- Come on. If you had to choose - are boxers (a) pants, or (b) shorts (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 10:04:20
- Shorts with a hole. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 20, 10:14:02
- Mine have no hole. well, I suppose two for the legs and one for my gut by no knob hole (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 20, 11:44:58
- oh no (n/m) (General Chat) - Huge Small, Jun 20, 10:16:57
- ? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 20, 10:18:06
- you are being rather obstinate and overlooking the facts (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 20, 10:08:21
- Do commandos actually go commando Tomblers? Strikes me as impractical and chafey (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jun 20, 10:20:13
- ^^^ nobody tell him about the Americans and their pants, cos it won't end well (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 10:16:09
- Boxer shorts are too baggy - too much material ! (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 20, 10:17:23
- buy ones that fit then (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 20, 10:18:25
- or he could do some trunks for a snugger fit (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 10:27:00
- Surely trunks are for swimming ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 20, 10:29:13
- only if they are swimming (or bathing) trunks, otherwise they are not (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 10:56:19
- Surely trunks are for swimming ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 20, 10:29:13
- Are you a 'Mod' on mumsnet ? respec . (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 20, 10:26:26
- or he could do some trunks for a snugger fit (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 10:27:00
- buy ones that fit then (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 20, 10:18:25
- Boxer shorts are too baggy - too much material ! (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 20, 10:17:23
- They are shorts (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 20, 10:07:38
- Shorts are outerwear. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 10:11:24
- says who? (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 20, 10:17:18
- I'm persuaded by the Hawes argument on this. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jun 20, 10:30:32
- I concur. (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 20, 10:32:35
- I'm persuaded by the Hawes argument on this. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jun 20, 10:30:32
- Sui generis (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 20, 10:17:02
- says who? (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 20, 10:17:18
- Shorts are outerwear. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 10:11:24
- Shorts with a hole. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 20, 10:14:02
- Come on. If you had to choose - are boxers (a) pants, or (b) shorts (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 10:04:20
- No way! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 20, 10:00:52
- What Ingerlund needs (Other Football) - King, Jun 20, 09:24:42
- The reality is this tournament was always going to come too soon. Hodgson has tried (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 20, 09:43:01
- And I bet we'll be saying the same thing in two years' time (Other Football) - King, Jun 20, 09:49:08
- Well yes, but they'll have 2 years more experience in all forms of the game and the core (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 20, 09:58:01
- a lot of them did 'star' for Liverpool (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 09:54:51
- indeed. As we saw last night from Uruguay. (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 10:05:16
- That's one team (Other Football) - King, Jun 20, 10:03:33
- Whereas Milner plays regularly for Man City and is vilified by England fans (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 20, 10:18:57
- Arsenal probably ha (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 10:05:10
- ve more than Chelsea (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 10:06:26
- And I bet we'll be saying the same thing in two years' time (Other Football) - King, Jun 20, 09:49:08
- My complex analysis of last night: (Other Football) - APB, Jun 20, 09:34:18
- Rooney should definitely have had two (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 20, 09:36:49
- Grant Holt would have scored that (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 20, 09:40:17
- Rooney should definitely have had two (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 20, 09:36:49
- The thing is though... (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 09:32:25
- Because they have better players than us (Other Football) - King, Jun 20, 09:46:19
- BUt why are their players better than us? Similar population sizes. (Other Football) - phrankin, Jun 20, 09:56:14
- Faciliites, facilities, faciliities. (Other Football) - APB, Jun 20, 09:37:06
- Well taking cricket as an example, private schools have ex pros as coaches (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 20, 10:03:11
- Coaches are part of the facilities. (n/m) (Other Football) - APB, Jun 20, 10:06:58
- ok, if you insist. (n/m) (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 20, 10:11:45
- Coaches are part of the facilities. (n/m) (Other Football) - APB, Jun 20, 10:06:58
- See i'm not sure about this, how good are the facilities in Uruguay? is it more a social (Other Football) - megson, Jun 20, 09:49:04
- Hence I wrote more advanced, wealthier societies. (Other Football) - APB, Jun 20, 10:08:20
- parents here won't let their kids play outside any more? (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 09:53:13
- I think that's part of it yes, kids play inside for a variety of reasons now. (n/m) (Other Football) - megson, Jun 20, 09:54:58
- So our paedos are to blame (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 20, 09:58:30
- or our irrational, media-fuelled, out-of-proportion fear of peadophiles. (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 10:12:23
- Indeed. I doubt there are actually any more paedophiles than there used to be (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 10:17:53
- or our irrational, media-fuelled, out-of-proportion fear of peadophiles. (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 20, 10:12:23
- So our paedos are to blame (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 20, 09:58:30
- I think that's part of it yes, kids play inside for a variety of reasons now. (n/m) (Other Football) - megson, Jun 20, 09:54:58
- My German cousin went to Seattle on a football scholarship for a year (Other Football) - Huge Small, Jun 20, 09:44:56
- I was typing facilities a bit too quickly there... (n/m) (Other Football) - APB, Jun 20, 09:37:50
- Well taking cricket as an example, private schools have ex pros as coaches (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 20, 10:03:11
- Youth facilities (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 09:36:12
- Well, youth coaching i'd say, Germany and Spain have something Like ten times as many qual (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 20, 09:49:28
- Poorer countries also tend to breed players with more desire (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 20, 09:42:09
- ^^^^^ He's got the answer. We need a FIFA world cup, we might win that. (n/m) (Other Football) - megson, Jun 20, 09:49:47
- you say but if there was one I bet it'd turn out we were rubbish (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 09:59:54
- and schools who let their tennis courts rot (n/m) (Other Football) - Huge Small, Jun 20, 09:47:56
- Ah. Winter breaktime football. On the tennis courts. With a tennis ball. (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 09:56:23
- they should be turned into football pitches anyway (n/m) (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 20, 09:56:23
- If they turned them into anything it would be a bonus (n/m) (Other Football) - Huge Small, Jun 20, 10:00:50
- how many of those countries listed in the OP are much poorer than us though? (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 09:45:27
- ^^^^^ He's got the answer. We need a FIFA world cup, we might win that. (n/m) (Other Football) - megson, Jun 20, 09:49:47
- Because they have better players than us (Other Football) - King, Jun 20, 09:46:19
- We have a very successful national league and a decent population size (Other Football) - phrankin, Jun 20, 09:32:02
- The reality is this tournament was always going to come too soon. Hodgson has tried (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 20, 09:43:01
- My team for Costa Rica (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 20, 09:16:33
- 1 silver lining from being virtually out (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 20, 09:28:31
- I'd ditch Gerrard for Barkley and go for it (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 09:21:42
- None after losing the first two though. (n/m) (Other Football) - APB, Jun 20, 09:41:22
- think barkley has been poor. (n/m) (Other Football) - earlydoors, Jun 20, 09:25:28
- Yes (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 09:25:12
- Loads have (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 20, 09:23:37
- I suspect there were a lot of draws in those groups though? (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 09:28:20
- Can happen whenever one team wins all three games (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 20, 09:37:34
- Presumably if one team wins all their games... (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 09:42:20
- Ha, true (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 20, 09:44:30
- Presumably if one team wins all their games... (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 09:42:20
- Can happen whenever one team wins all three games (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 20, 09:37:34
- I suspect there were a lot of draws in those groups though? (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 09:28:20
- England in the World Cup finals (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 08:57:30
- If 82 is included we beat France (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 09:04:43
- turned out beating them was a big mistake (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 09:15:00
- Yes, but it worked in our favour in 1986 (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 09:17:57
- turned out beating them was a big mistake (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 09:15:00
- Other teams better than England shocker..... (n/m) (Other Football) - Vivid Data Shark, Jun 20, 09:04:36
- Perpetually better..that's the worry and annoyance. (n/m) (Other Football) - BINMEN8R, Jun 20, 09:08:29
- Shit...so basically anyone half decent and we lose. (n/m) (Other Football) - BINMEN8R, Jun 20, 09:02:11
- Mainly due to being shit at penalties (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 20, 09:02:05
- wouldn't matter if we could beat them (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 09:11:41
- But they mainly beat us on penalties (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 20, 09:37:10
- wouldn't matter if we could beat them (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 20, 09:11:41
- If 82 is included we beat France (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 09:04:43
- One of the most baffling things about this board is (Betting) - CB41, Jun 20, 08:39:54
- Agreed (n/m) (Betting) - norway, Jun 20, 09:13:27
- Surely everything on this board baffles you, ceebers? (n/m) (Betting) - Old Git, Jun 20, 09:03:55
- "on this board" (n/m) (Betting) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 20, 09:07:34
- Whole lives have been consumed by this. Poor old usacanary is like a dog with a bone (Betting) - Upperjarroldmiddle, Jun 20, 08:44:36
- Draw is at 10am (Betting) - SCC 28, Jun 20, 08:42:01
- Can't blame Hodgson, who has he got pick? For me the problem is the Premier League. (NCFC) - Chopper, Jun 19, 22:22:40
- it's ruined the domestic game particularly at International level (NCFC) - The King of Prussia, Jun 19, 22:33:06
- I can see what you mean but Uruguay aren't world beaters. But when our top clubs simply (NCFC) - Chopper, Jun 19, 22:29:52
- Incredibly true. (n/m) (NCFC) - bobble, Jun 19, 22:47:55
- So, remind me how many competitions we won before the Premier League (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Jun 19, 22:28:24
- Nope, that is simply not true (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 22:37:09
- Wrong place (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 22:40:19
- In the main we did a whole lot better before the Prem League. At least we would go along (NCFC) - Chopper, Jun 19, 22:35:41
- We didn't qualify at all in the 70s (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 22:39:53
- Nope, that is simply not true (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 22:37:09
- Ashley Cole would be a start ! (n/m) (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Jun 19, 22:25:12
- But we've always been like this, foreign players or not (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 22:24:54
- I agree, but like I said below uruguay only have 3 million population so how do they manag (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 19, 22:23:52
- Their kids play footie in the streets and parks (NCFC) - harry boulders, Jun 19, 22:30:10
- sweaters for goalpost, lemons at half time. (n/m) (NCFC) - John in Texas, Jun 19, 22:41:41
- How many English players are playing in top leagues around the world. (NCFC) - CROYDONCANARY, Jun 19, 22:29:29
- Bale (NCFC) - harry boulders, Jun 19, 22:35:37
- Probably true. (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jun 19, 22:26:33
- By having their best players play abroad in the richest leagues. (n/m) (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jun 19, 22:24:54
- They have to be good enough in the first place though (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Jun 19, 22:30:55
- Their kids play footie in the streets and parks (NCFC) - harry boulders, Jun 19, 22:30:10
- where are you going to for your holidays this year? (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 19, 22:15:14
- Villa in Menorca (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 22:23:43
- elveden? (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 19, 22:30:41
- Indeed (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 22:38:06
- great holiday with little'uns (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 19, 22:43:25
- Indeed (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 22:38:06
- elveden? (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 19, 22:30:41
- swiss alps (General Chat) - matt in london, Jun 19, 22:23:05
- Tombs - trust you've had a Turkish cut throat shave? (n/m) (General Chat) - Mozzer, Jun 19, 22:22:38
- yup, amazeballs cleanmush feeling (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 19, 22:24:59
- the flame to the ears took me by surprise (n/m) (General Chat) - Mozzer, Jun 19, 22:58:02
- yup, amazeballs cleanmush feeling (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 19, 22:24:59
- This Spain Ha Ha Ha Ha place sounds nice. (n/m) (General Chat) - bird table, Jun 19, 22:21:09
- already had mine...montego bay and butlins. (n/m) (General Chat) - earlydoors, Jun 19, 22:21:00
- Nowhere. Praps a day at Sea Palling. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arganth, Jun 19, 22:19:59
- Say hello to Steve Ignorant (n/m) (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jun 19, 22:21:03
- went last year and did the paragliding (brilliant) (General Chat) - Mozzer, Jun 19, 22:17:57
- I've done the paragliding there too (General Chat) - The King of Prussia, Jun 19, 22:20:26
- awesome hentut (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 19, 22:22:13
- yep!! the journey in the mini bus shat me up. (General Chat) - Mozzer, Jun 19, 22:21:44
- When I did it (General Chat) - The King of Prussia, Jun 19, 22:36:39
- trying to persuade Mrs Mozz to do it this year (n/m) (General Chat) - Mozzer, Jun 19, 23:00:20
- When I did it (General Chat) - The King of Prussia, Jun 19, 22:36:39
- I've done the paragliding there too (General Chat) - The King of Prussia, Jun 19, 22:20:26
- Can't beat a holiday in Turkey ...been a number of times (General Chat) - oh huckerby, Jun 19, 22:17:34
- Benners (General Chat) - Trent_Canary, Jun 19, 22:17:24
- Unbelievably (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 19, 22:16:29
- Villa in Menorca (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 22:23:43
- Does Stevie Me get an assist for that? (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 19, 22:13:09
- All he needs now is to find out jt's been round his house ! (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 19, 22:17:55
- Note the reluctance of either commentator to blame him (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 22:15:00
- Did you know CR7 is out of the world cup? (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 19, 22:14:45
- Floaty crosses (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 21:57:37
- One idiotic foul after another (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 21:28:02
- Ugh (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 21:27:09
- Ragged old junk from England (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 21:07:59
- Terrible stuff (n/m) (Other Football) - Huge Small, Jun 19, 21:08:44
- What is the point of playing four forwards... (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 19, 20:56:52
- Barkley or Oxlade-Chamberlain just to get some dynamism (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 20:59:28
- if they had tactically flexibility they could go three at the back (Other Football) - Mecagoenti, Jun 19, 20:57:44
- You (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 19, 20:57:17
- Ahem. Yup. (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 19, 20:58:07
- Now in the position of having to break a team down again (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 20:47:52
- Coca Goala (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 19, 18:30:57
- Cameroon look a lot better than last time. (Other Football) - APB, Jun 18, 23:23:05
- 23.00 games have been brill in this. A lot of the stupidity on here stops (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 23:38:56
- They do. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, Jun 18, 23:28:25
- Ivory Coast most likely, I'd say (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 18, 23:33:14
- Blimey. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, Jun 18, 23:37:36
- Ivory Coast most likely, I'd say (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 18, 23:33:14
- Scotland beat Croatia hum and away (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 18, 23:14:03
- Sex Midgets? (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 18, 21:53:48
- The co-commentator is dry but actually comes out with some interesting stuff (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jun 18, 21:27:35
- The whole Beeb team tonight have been superb to be honest. (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jun 18, 21:31:12
- No-one would miss Shearer and P Neville (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jun 18, 21:32:27
- Neville's ok as a studio pundit (n/m) (NCFC) - Huge Small, Jun 18, 21:35:58
- Neville has been excellent in the studio, and I bet he's very different as an analyst tomo (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jun 18, 21:33:21
- rrow. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jun 18, 21:33:51
- zztop (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Jun 18, 21:35:23
- jjb sports (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 18, 21:36:15
- Stefan Ffenberg (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jun 18, 21:37:59
- it's all gone spain (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 18, 21:38:44
- Garrrrrry Brooke (n/m) (NCFC) - Huge Small, Jun 18, 21:36:50
- first two letter alliteration violation (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 18, 21:38:19
- Stefan Ffenberg (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jun 18, 21:37:59
- jjb sports (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 18, 21:36:15
- zztop (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Jun 18, 21:35:23
- rrow. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jun 18, 21:33:51
- No-one would miss Shearer and P Neville (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jun 18, 21:32:27
- who is he? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 18, 21:27:54
- 9 (n/m) (NCFC) - yellowman, Jun 18, 21:29:58
- agree, one of few world cup pundits i can stand (n/m) (NCFC) - robotbear, Jun 18, 21:29:40
- Matthew Gibson (n/m) (NCFC) - Huge Small, Jun 18, 21:29:08
- any relation to danny murphy? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 18, 21:29:59
- ideot! (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Jun 18, 21:29:19
- Danny Murphy (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Jun 18, 21:29:05
- Danny Murphy (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 18, 21:28:33
- Danny Murphy (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 18, 21:28:30
- Danny Murphy (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jun 18, 21:28:22
- The whole Beeb team tonight have been superb to be honest. (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jun 18, 21:31:12
- how much chelsea pay for costa (NCFC) - yellows2011, Jun 18, 21:24:25
- Can't believe no-one's done Diego Van Costawinkel (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 18, 21:27:43
- Saving it for Waynewinkel (n/m) (NCFC) - oh huckerby, Jun 18, 21:29:56
- costaswinkel (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 18, 21:29:04
- Pedantsry (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 18, 21:37:48
- Injured ain't he? (n/m) (NCFC) - avid_canary, Jun 18, 21:26:33
- Nein (n/m) (NCFC) - oh huckerby, Jun 18, 21:27:45
- But still a better bet than anyone else apparently (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jun 18, 21:27:14
- I mean, obviously I know he's on the pitch (or was) but he's no where near fit. (n/m) (NCFC) - avid_canary, Jun 18, 21:27:07
- 9 (n/m) (NCFC) - yellowman, Jun 18, 21:26:08
- 9 (n/m) (NCFC) - Huge Small, Jun 18, 21:25:41
- Playing on with a bad injury. Shouldn't be playing (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jun 18, 21:25:37
- It looks like half of them are (n/m) (NCFC) - Huge Small, Jun 18, 21:26:18
- Costa's had a fecked hamstring for the last 5 weeks though (NCFC) - pants, Jun 18, 21:36:49
- They've just had monkey testicles removed from their cheeks... (NCFC) - yellowman, Jun 18, 21:28:26
- It looks like half of them are (n/m) (NCFC) - Huge Small, Jun 18, 21:26:18
- 9 (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Jun 18, 21:25:05
- Bingo (n/m) (NCFC) - oh huckerby, Jun 18, 21:25:48
- House (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Jun 18, 21:27:28
- Thatched cottage (n/m) (NCFC) - oh huckerby, Jun 18, 21:28:24
- No...Hugh Laurie (n/m) (NCFC) - yellowman, Jun 18, 21:29:30
- Thatched cottage (n/m) (NCFC) - oh huckerby, Jun 18, 21:28:24
- House (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Jun 18, 21:27:28
- Bingo (n/m) (NCFC) - oh huckerby, Jun 18, 21:25:48
- 9 (n/m) (NCFC) - oh huckerby, Jun 18, 21:24:52
- 9 (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Jun 18, 21:24:47
- LOL- ?32 million (n/m) (NCFC) - Coventry Yellow, Jun 18, 21:25:42
- Can't believe no-one's done Diego Van Costawinkel (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 18, 21:27:43
- Can't believe I wasn't here to do my ''A booking for Vidal so soon?' gag (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 18, 21:19:07
- It's old skool this. Remember when Spain always went out and everyone used to say (Other Football) - CB41, Jun 18, 21:06:57
- innit (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Jun 18, 21:09:30
- no (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Jun 18, 21:07:49
- Well, it's true anyway. People did say that. (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 18, 21:11:14
- Until that dodgy doctor appeared... (n/m) (Other Football) - phrankin, Jun 18, 21:13:47
- Well, it's true anyway. People did say that. (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 18, 21:11:14
- No coincidence this and Dr Fuentes (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 18, 21:01:53
- I must confess I do worry about that (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 18, 21:13:36
- MASSIVE leap there SCC. Amazing (n/m) (Other Football) - admckechnie, Jun 18, 21:09:48
- Cheers buddy (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 18, 21:12:38
- So Casillas is having a stinker because he hasn't had his special Spanish burger??! (n/m) (Other Football) - col canary, Jun 18, 21:06:17
- Yeah they look great apart from their shit keeper (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 18, 21:06:59
- ChileFACT III (Other Football) - Tombs, Jun 18, 21:04:10
- A hot dog and a description of what the weather is like outside. (n/m) (Other Football) - Bravo win or die, Jun 18, 21:11:55
- jumping frog, Alex Tettey (n/m) (Other Football) - Jumbo1, Jun 18, 21:14:53
- A hot dog and a description of what the weather is like outside. (n/m) (Other Football) - Bravo win or die, Jun 18, 21:11:55
- when will nadal and murray get popped? (Other Football) - Mecagoenti, Jun 18, 21:03:52
- Murray supremely talented and hard working (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 18, 21:05:43
- Lady at work died at the weekend (General Chat) - Charles21, Jun 17, 21:38:20
- RIP ex Lady at work (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jun 17, 21:42:11
- Sobering isn't it. (n/m) (General Chat) - Yellalee, Jun 17, 21:41:20
- certainly is (General Chat) - Charles21, Jun 17, 21:42:30
- If you could choose, that's the way I want to go (n/m) (General Chat) - emmaroyds, Jun 17, 21:39:58
- My mum died that way. She'd been out the evening before and died during the night. (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jun 17, 21:53:55
- ditto with my mum, glad for her sad for us! (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jun 17, 21:56:23
- Me too Jumbo (n/m) (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jun 17, 21:58:48
- ditto with my mum, glad for her sad for us! (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jun 17, 21:56:23
- my grandad used to be a bus driver and he died peacefully in his sleep... (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Jun 17, 21:43:44
- shot in the back of the head when not expecting it (General Chat) - Charles21, Jun 17, 21:41:26
- done! (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jun 17, 21:42:48
- Is that likely? (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 17, 21:42:27
- Would you ever be expecting to be shot in the back of the head? (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jun 17, 21:42:23
- depends on your enemies I suppose (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Jun 17, 21:44:44
- If you were a prisoner of ISIS (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 17, 21:44:10
- I'm sure they used to provide the towels at my last place of work.... guess they've expand (General Chat) - Pixelman, Jun 17, 21:55:26
- I don't thing they're raging keen on the towels gig any more. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jun 17, 22:08:09
- lol (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jun 17, 21:56:52
- How are we saying that? Eye-sis sounds pretty cool, but then iziz has a certain ring (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jun 17, 21:45:37
- I'm sure they used to provide the towels at my last place of work.... guess they've expand (General Chat) - Pixelman, Jun 17, 21:55:26
- Never rule it out. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Jun 17, 21:43:57
- My mum died that way. She'd been out the evening before and died during the night. (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jun 17, 21:53:55
- How old was she? (n/m) (General Chat) - Trent_Canary, Jun 17, 21:39:25
- early 60s I think (General Chat) - Charles21, Jun 17, 21:40:31
- Why does lawro kepp saying yar instead of yeah? (n/m) (Other Football) - Chris Peacock, Jun 17, 21:37:31
- pirateitis (n/m) (Other Football) - Pixelman, Jun 17, 21:40:11
- Innate twattery? (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 17, 21:39:59
- *keep (n/m) (Other Football) - Chris Peacock, Jun 17, 21:37:50
- Great innit Yah yah YAR! (n/m) (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Jun 17, 21:38:54
- Wandering accent syndrome, give him 2 weeks in a country and he's blending in (n/m) (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Jun 17, 21:40:05
- Great innit Yah yah YAR! (n/m) (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Jun 17, 21:38:54