It’s the entire point of offside. So this is often the cause of failure in

so many things in tech - automating a manual process. Obsessing on details without taking the opportunity to ask yourself why is this rule here and how can we use technology to better achieve the purpose?

Posted By: Legacy Fan on July 3rd 2026 at 12:55:36

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That Croatia decision shows why VAR is mostly terrible (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 3, 12:04:50
- just likely laddsed the highlights off (Other Football) - Tombs, Jul 3, 12:36:34
  - Just did the same (Other Football) - Under soil heating, Jul 3, 13:47:05
- I disagree. Offside is a question of fact (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 3, 12:25:52
  - Var has been an inconsistent mess this tournament. (Other Football) - Jimbocharles, Jul 3, 12:50:45
    - It has been excellent (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 13:00:30
      - No. Inconsistent. Why is it referring really tight subjective decisions? (Other Football) - Jimbocharles, Jul 3, 13:06:42
        
        He had his 2 arms on the keeper (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 13:36:44
        
        Disgraceful holding!! Lol. OK.... you must be trolling at this point (n/m) (Other Football) - Jimbocharles, Jul 3, 16:07:25
        
        You don’t find all the holding we’ve seen in recent seasons (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 16:30:22
        
        There wasn't any holding. He stood his ground. (Other Football) - Jimbocharles, Jul 3, 17:04:44
        
        I was clearly talking generally (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 17:43:55
        
        And even the referee expert in studio said it wasn't a pen in his view (n/m) (Other Football) - Jimbocharles, Jul 3, 17:06:31
  - Ok on that basis should we extend it to every decision? Throw ins, corners etc to ensure (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 3, 12:35:37
    - I don't see a quest for rule purity; I see a quest for consistent decision making (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 3, 13:28:26
      - There are a number of things I don't like about VAR (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 3, 16:38:35
    - Same goes for cricket, tennis etc (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:42:58
      - You didn't answer the question. Should we use it for throws and corners? (n/m) (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 3, 12:48:03
        
        Not throw ins defo (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:50:52
        
        Ok so 'accurate decisions' don't matter in every situation. Interesting. (n/m) (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 3, 15:24:04
        
        That’s what I expected you to say (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 18:03:42
    - Well we don’t know whether in was inconsequential. We’ve just moved subjectivity further (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 3, 12:40:50
      - Seems like he’s got more accurate tech than FIFA (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:43:35
  - Stands up to applaud (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:28:30
    - Yet you love xG which is clearly a subjective stat... (Other Football) - usacanary, Jul 3, 15:13:00
- It will be the biggest shame if the world cup is won on a decision like that (Other Football) - Lentil Weaver, Jul 3, 12:15:34
  - Wouldn't a much bigger shame be if the World Cup were won by an offside goal? (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 3, 13:29:26
  - Yep (n/m) (Other Football) - Jumbo1, Jul 3, 12:20:34
- It clearly shows many fans are stupid (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:12:06
  - Well you make an interesting argument. Firstly, yes the chip may well determine beyond (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 3, 12:20:33
    - How would adding subjectivity improve things? (n/m) (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 3, 12:29:19
      - Surely that’s removing subjectivity?! (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 3, 12:33:43
        
        Advantage or no advantage is subjective. (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 3, 13:16:16
        
        Your example is indeed subjective but this would not be. If it can be proven that the (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 3, 13:35:19
        
        When you introduce the concept that some kind of touches are ok and some are not (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 3, 13:43:53
        
        That’s exactly what it needs (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 3, 13:45:30
        
        We'll have to agree to disagree (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 3, 13:50:07
        
        +1 (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 13:55:38
        
        What’s the obsession with hair lol (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 13:38:48
        
        Reminds me of the toenail stuff people invented (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 13:39:05
      - Exactly would just provide more controversy (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:31:01
        
        They faked the snicko spike (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 3, 12:31:24
        
        Because Ronaldo must stay in the comp (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:45:14
        
        Got to make it look real by not faking everything (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 3, 12:46:51
        
        Seems like you’re wide awake pal (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:47:33
    - Saw something about it measuring other stuff (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:24:08
      - Only if you automate a manual process. But if you want to improve the purpose of (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 3, 12:31:08
        
        Yeah let’s subjectively decide if an advantage was ‘fair’ (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:32:28
        
        It’s not subjective though is it? Currently you’ve got one objective assertion from a (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 3, 12:37:02
        
        No offside isn’t about getting an advantage (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:46:37
        
        It’s the entire point of offside. So this is often the cause of failure in (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 3, 12:55:36
        
        It was originally tbf (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 3, 12:48:39
        
        Yes but the here and now is what matters (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:53:38
  - Who says that football needs to be as accurate as cricket? Nonsense logic. (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 3, 12:15:28
    - Incredible (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:19:57
      - “You don’t know the extent of the nick” (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 3, 12:59:50
        
        The tech says he touched it (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 13:04:03
        
        Hmmm. Thats a bit of a shift. But yes they probably would but would have no grounds for it (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 3, 13:12:43
    - Marginal nicks are the same in either sport (Other Football) - norwaay, Jul 3, 12:18:11
      - It wasn't a nick though. It was indicernable to the naked eye (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 3, 12:25:23
        
        Loads of nicks are like that (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:27:14
        
        Some cricket nicks are also though (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 3, 12:27:05
        
        and before tech would have been given not out, so it's not dissimilar (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 3, 12:27:33
        
        Football is not cricket. Nicks clearly far more important in cricket (n/m) (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 3, 12:36:48
        
        They really aren't (Other Football) - norwaay, Jul 3, 13:06:24
        
        I disagree. Had the spin or trajectory changed so slightly that it was not (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 3, 13:03:30
        
        There are loads of important nicks in football (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:52:10
        
        ^^^^^ GIVE YOUR HEADS A WOBBLE LADS ^^^^ (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 3, 15:27:03
- Vimto - it is killing the game for fans in the stadium (Other Football) - Jumbo1, Jul 3, 12:07:15
  - He's just rage baiting thou. (n/m) (Other Football) - Lentil Weaver, Jul 3, 12:16:04
  - Yeah the Portugal fans were devo (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 12:12:43

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