Completely agree about communications

they shouldn't be taken entirely at face value. But I suppose they are just trying to act in the interests of the club, not the departing player. If convincing the fans that player x wants out, it might cause less division within the club than if the player is being sold against his wishes (e.g. with Sutton).

Posted By: Mecagoenti on April 18th 2023 at 10:21:49

Message Thread

Baileys story on Ramsey (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 07:11:54
- Emi wanted to leave to the previous season. (NCFC) - Trent_Canary, Apr 18, 09:29:35
  - Yep. If anything you could say Webber deserves credit for keeping him for the extra year (n/m) (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Apr 18, 09:33:47
    - VMT was a real coup to keep him happy (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:37:18
    - This “agreement” is complete speculation (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:37:06
      - But your assertion that he didn’t want to leave is not?! (n/m) (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Apr 18, 10:55:54
      - it's also by far the most logical and likely scenario (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 18, 10:04:13
- Are you saying Emi didn't want to leave?! (n/m) (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Apr 18, 08:48:02
  - He was probably up for the move yes but (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:04:08
    - This 'view' is complete speculation. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Apr 18, 10:09:01
    - Hold the front page: Jim not convinced about something NCFC-related (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Apr 18, 09:54:28
    - lol (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 18, 09:16:31
    - Webber is on record as saying he refused to play for the club again (n/m) (NCFC) - TheGrump, Apr 18, 09:11:37
      - I though he said he made it clear he wanted to (n/m) (NCFC) - Gazzaman, Apr 18, 16:25:09
      - No he’s not. Listen to his precise quote (for which we only have his word anyway) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:17:42
        
        Are you saying Webber is lying then? (NCFC) - TheGrump, Apr 18, 09:26:42
        
        He was talking about Buendias agent saying that (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:36:18
        
        Even if he played he’d have been a very different player (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:38:27
        
        Right. Like Kane at Spurs? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:41:44
        
        surely that's a completely different situation? (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 18, 09:44:48
        
        He would not have refused to play for us (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:50:55
        
        Completely agree about communications (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 18, 10:21:49
    - Why would he have stayed? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:11:08
      - Firstly he was under contract. Secondly money talks. Pay him more (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:18:15
        
        Do you never read our accounts? (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 18, 10:07:12
        
        We don’t now, no. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 10:13:21
        
        But we did when we went up? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 10:19:45
        
        Yeah we’d have afforded those wages in the championship (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:20:32
        
        We weren’t in the championship (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:20:53
        
        We’d have likely been relegated (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:26:41
        
        And then what? Get relegated anyway, sell him cheaper the following season? (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 18, 09:19:09
        
        Ps this is what is wrong with our clubs attitude (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:21:37
        
        The attitude comes from our reality (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:27:55
        
        Yes and it flows from the ownership but even so it’s been too (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:44:04
        
        We’ve performed way beyond our finances (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:46:58
        
        Maybe we stay up and he’s then worth £60m? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:23:52
        
        Maybe we stay up because he made our team miles better (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:20:27
        
        He did but he was with us the previous prem season (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:23:40
        
        He was a much better player by then (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:24:30
      - All (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 18, 09:16:59
        
        ..clubs our size have to sell players (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 18, 09:18:06
        
        They’ve not sold a key player since promotion (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:18:59
        
        Yes, but didn’t arrive in the prem with a squad that needed reworking (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 18, 09:20:32
        
        It’s both. But that sale at that moment was catastrophic (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:23:10
        
        agreed, but it could have been less catastrophic (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 18, 09:39:16
        
        bingo (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 18, 10:10:52
        
        The £10m -£25m value is the hardest to get right (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 18, 11:24:05
        
        Brentford have at least one partner scandinavian clubI think (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 11:52:59
        
        sad thing is that those players used to be the £2m-£5m gambles not that long ago (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 18, 11:42:18
        
        Yes, totally (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 18, 23:19:48
        
        yeah, it's a tough job (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 18, 10:17:59
        
        Don’t disagree with that either (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:42:20
        
        Brighton sell key players too (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:25:26
        
        Brighton sell key players after staying up and thus get huge fees for them (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:40:44
        
        Tony Bloom has put 400m into Brighton! (n/m) (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Apr 18, 11:29:26
- Emi and Howson were desperate to stay. (NCFC) - Azteca, Apr 18, 07:25:47

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