Yes and it flows from the ownership but even so it’s been too

Indoctrinated in us and everything the club does and ultimately has cost us shy chance of sustained top flight status.

Posted By: Jim on April 18th 2023 at 09:44:04

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Baileys story on Ramsey (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 07:11:54
- Emi wanted to leave to the previous season. (NCFC) - Trent_Canary, Apr 18, 09:29:35
  - Yep. If anything you could say Webber deserves credit for keeping him for the extra year (n/m) (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Apr 18, 09:33:47
    - VMT was a real coup to keep him happy (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:37:18
    - This “agreement” is complete speculation (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:37:06
      - But your assertion that he didn’t want to leave is not?! (n/m) (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Apr 18, 10:55:54
      - it's also by far the most logical and likely scenario (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 18, 10:04:13
- Are you saying Emi didn't want to leave?! (n/m) (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Apr 18, 08:48:02
  - He was probably up for the move yes but (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:04:08
    - This 'view' is complete speculation. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Apr 18, 10:09:01
    - Hold the front page: Jim not convinced about something NCFC-related (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Apr 18, 09:54:28
    - lol (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 18, 09:16:31
    - Webber is on record as saying he refused to play for the club again (n/m) (NCFC) - TheGrump, Apr 18, 09:11:37
      - I though he said he made it clear he wanted to (n/m) (NCFC) - Gazzaman, Apr 18, 16:25:09
      - No he’s not. Listen to his precise quote (for which we only have his word anyway) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:17:42
        
        Are you saying Webber is lying then? (NCFC) - TheGrump, Apr 18, 09:26:42
        
        He was talking about Buendias agent saying that (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:36:18
        
        Even if he played he’d have been a very different player (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:38:27
        
        Right. Like Kane at Spurs? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:41:44
        
        surely that's a completely different situation? (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 18, 09:44:48
        
        He would not have refused to play for us (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:50:55
        
        Completely agree about communications (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 18, 10:21:49
    - Why would he have stayed? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:11:08
      - Firstly he was under contract. Secondly money talks. Pay him more (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:18:15
        
        Do you never read our accounts? (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 18, 10:07:12
        
        We don’t now, no. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 10:13:21
        
        But we did when we went up? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 10:19:45
        
        Yeah we’d have afforded those wages in the championship (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:20:32
        
        We weren’t in the championship (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:20:53
        
        We’d have likely been relegated (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:26:41
        
        And then what? Get relegated anyway, sell him cheaper the following season? (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 18, 09:19:09
        
        Ps this is what is wrong with our clubs attitude (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:21:37
        
        The attitude comes from our reality (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:27:55
        
        Yes and it flows from the ownership but even so it’s been too (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:44:04
        
        We’ve performed way beyond our finances (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:46:58
        
        Maybe we stay up and he’s then worth £60m? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:23:52
        
        Maybe we stay up because he made our team miles better (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:20:27
        
        He did but he was with us the previous prem season (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:23:40
        
        He was a much better player by then (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:24:30
      - All (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 18, 09:16:59
        
        ..clubs our size have to sell players (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 18, 09:18:06
        
        They’ve not sold a key player since promotion (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:18:59
        
        Yes, but didn’t arrive in the prem with a squad that needed reworking (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 18, 09:20:32
        
        It’s both. But that sale at that moment was catastrophic (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:23:10
        
        agreed, but it could have been less catastrophic (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 18, 09:39:16
        
        bingo (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 18, 10:10:52
        
        The £10m -£25m value is the hardest to get right (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 18, 11:24:05
        
        Brentford have at least one partner scandinavian clubI think (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 11:52:59
        
        sad thing is that those players used to be the £2m-£5m gambles not that long ago (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 18, 11:42:18
        
        Yes, totally (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 18, 23:19:48
        
        yeah, it's a tough job (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 18, 10:17:59
        
        Don’t disagree with that either (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:42:20
        
        Brighton sell key players too (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 18, 09:25:26
        
        Brighton sell key players after staying up and thus get huge fees for them (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 18, 09:40:44
        
        Tony Bloom has put 400m into Brighton! (n/m) (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Apr 18, 11:29:26
- Emi and Howson were desperate to stay. (NCFC) - Azteca, Apr 18, 07:25:47

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