Hmm...

1) What are you then?

2) That's crap. And we've already resolved that it's the fault of both players and manager. But AGAIN, who buys, organises, instructs etc. these players?

3) We do support the players. Just not the manager.

4) That's an assumption that can neither be proved or disproved and is therefore irrelevant to the argument. Even if you are right, and that management is being ignored, surely that only strengthens the argument for him to be removed from his role, and replaced with someone who does influence the players?!?!

Posted By: Dog on March 31st 2006 at 14:44:18

Message Thread

The reasons the manager gets the blame and not the players (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Mar 31, 14:10:18
- Agreed - its no coincidence that hughes and robinson are always in the papers (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 31, 14:11:19
- So, if you don't do your job properly when you should, it's your boss's fault ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 31, 14:11:11
  - He's The Manager. M-A-N-A-G-E-R. He "Manages" Them. (NCFC) - Martin Peters, Mar 31, 14:29:41
    - Christ, that's so easy to pick holes in... (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 31, 14:38:12
      - Where Do I Start? (NCFC) - Martin Peters, Mar 31, 14:49:09
      - Hmm... (NCFC) - Dog, Mar 31, 14:44:18
        
        You may have an answer to point 1. (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 31, 14:57:34
        
        Why do you assume that I haven't looked at it from both sides? (NCFC) - Dog, Mar 31, 15:12:50
  - No but if you dont do your job properly you get sacked i believe? (n/m) (NCFC) - conker, Mar 31, 14:20:58
    - Then name me one player who doesn't deserve to be sacked so far this season. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 31, 14:22:51
      - We want rid of Charlton, Thorne, Hughes, Robinson... (NCFC) - Dog, Mar 31, 14:26:21
      - Peter Thorne (n/m) (NCFC) - Kings Lynn Canary, Mar 31, 14:24:59
  - 'responsibility' not 'fault'. You can't have authority without responsibility. In the same (NCFC) - malkybarkid, Mar 31, 14:14:03
    - Yeah but the outers lauded Worthy for the play offs and the champs. (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 31, 14:20:41
      - I have no tints in my glasses and I believe Safri's performances of late have been poor, (NCFC) - malkybarkid, Mar 31, 14:28:36
        
        I agree with you, for what it's worth. (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 31, 14:34:39
        
        no-one really comes out of this season with any credit (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 31, 14:40:49
        
        fair do's and I don't disagree re: those with tints, unfortunately these sort of debates (NCFC) - malkybarkid, Mar 31, 14:39:21
        
        Presume you'll be in the Kings tomorrow ? (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 31, 14:42:37
        
        yes, and by all means do - a fair few wrathers will be present. (n/m) (NCFC) - malkybarkid, Mar 31, 14:44:38
        
        I agree that it is the fault of both the players and the manager... (NCFC) - Dog, Mar 31, 14:37:40
      - I didn't (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 31, 14:26:58
      - Arganth - Safri hasnt started for a while! (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Mar 31, 14:23:01
        
        And anyway, stop coming out with the same tired out Worthy Out crap... (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 31, 14:29:18
        
        OK, I've finally worked it out... (NCFC) - Dog, Mar 31, 14:29:59
        
        Wound up by people who can't see a balanced argument, more like. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 31, 14:39:29
        
        It's not a balanced argument though, is it. (NCFC) - Dog, Mar 31, 14:50:08
        
        Safri has started for a while ? Good, if Friday's showing is anything to go by ! (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 31, 14:25:26
  - it is if... (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 31, 14:14:01
    - So you want him to sack 15 players then? (n/m) (NCFC) - songwriter81, Mar 31, 14:22:05
      - ???????????? (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 31, 14:27:31
      - Who Ashton? (n/m) (NCFC) - Kings Lynn Canary, Mar 31, 14:23:03
  - Yes ultimately it is (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 31, 14:13:06
    - So, if you and your colleagues can't be arsed, it's your boss's fault ? (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 31, 14:21:47
      - In Every Management Job I've Had (NCFC) - Martin Peters, Mar 31, 14:35:40
      - no but if he does fuck all about it for 18 months then it becomes his failing (n/m) (NCFC) - Kings Lynn Canary, Mar 31, 14:23:56
        
        18 months is harsh, seeings he was hopelessly under-resourced,and inexperienced... (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 31, 14:26:52
        
        inexperience is no excuse for idiocy (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 31, 14:37:35
        
        I would have said it was inexperience that caused those decisions... (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 31, 14:41:12
  - no but if you are fucking useless you get the sack, and so does he if he doesnt own the (NCFC) - Kings Lynn Canary, Mar 31, 14:12:28
  - If you're consistently underperforming and he does nothing about it, yes (n/m) (NCFC) - Declan, Mar 31, 14:12:21
- Spot on. (n/m) (NCFC) - Dog, Mar 31, 14:10:54

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