I agree with all that other than I would say that

it wasn't just her red lines that led to the backstop issue but the catastrophic decision to agree to split the negotiations into withdrawal, transition and future relationship. As soon as we caved in on that the border/backstop became an issue whereas if we were negotiating it all as one the backstop may never have become a problem.

You and I have discussed this before but we shouldn;t have served Article 50 until we had bottomed out most of these issues and possibly looked to agree a longer period of time so the future relationship could be worked out.

Posted By: Jim on January 22nd 2019 at 17:11:29

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PM: Jim (warning - brexit) (General Chat) - Dunney, Jan 22, 15:38:48
- 😔 (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jan 22, 23:49:31
- What he said ☝️ (n/m) (General Chat) - Worthing Yellow, Jan 22, 18:44:28
- I disagree (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jan 22, 18:10:59
  - I am shocked (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 18:17:39
- Great post pal. (n/m) (General Chat) - MIKEWALKER, Jan 22, 17:44:05
- We really won't starve if we leave you know. (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jan 22, 17:37:32
- I'm sorry but its absolutely the case that the EU could compromise on the backstop (General Chat) - Jim, Jan 22, 17:05:26
  - they can't Jim (General Chat) - CWC, Jan 22, 17:54:30
    - They can (General Chat) - Jim, Jan 22, 18:54:24
  - Every thing you say is just another version of (General Chat) - Dunney, Jan 22, 17:43:50
    - Not really and don;t see why your tone needs to be so aggressive (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Jan 22, 18:42:54
      - Yes really (General Chat) - Dunney, Jan 22, 19:23:36
        
        I get your stance is that you want the Uk to remain (General Chat) - Jim, Jan 22, 19:47:03
        
        Erm (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 19:57:06
        
        Can you give me one actual known - not a maybe, possibly or wish list- benefit of Brexit (General Chat) - Dunney, Jan 22, 19:56:08
        
        Agree with most of what you say (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 19:35:10
        
        That's fair comment (General Chat) - Dunney, Jan 22, 19:45:19
        
        But you still managed a lovely old generation, this is where you and many (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 22, 20:53:45
        
        Generalisation * (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 22, 20:54:26
- she's either incompetent or rivalling Machievelli for cunning (General Chat) - CWC, Jan 22, 16:33:19
  - I agree too, totally out of her depth. (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jan 22, 17:34:30
    - because she isn't really a Remainer (General Chat) - CWC, Jan 22, 18:13:08
  - I agree with all that other than I would say that (General Chat) - Jim, Jan 22, 17:11:29
- It’s not the why people voted for it that’s the issue for me. (General Chat) - APB, Jan 22, 16:20:50
- Well put (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Jan 22, 16:17:56
- The Brexit people voted for (General Chat) - The Editor of Milk, Jan 22, 16:16:59
  - ............. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 22, 16:21:03
- Bravo (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jan 22, 16:07:43
- Very many good words (General Chat) - Moritz Moutarde, Jan 22, 15:56:17
  - IFriday. Will continue your good work (n/m) (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Jan 22, 18:04:24
    - FFS. Will be back in Berlin on Friday. The rest of that post is Herr Bollocks (n/m) (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Jan 22, 18:05:31
- Cameron should be strung up from a lamp post like Mussolini was (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 22, 15:49:16
  - Yes , all this mess is down to him. (General Chat) - MORDENCANARY, Jan 22, 16:06:21
  - Metaphorically, of course (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 22, 15:50:02
- Very well put. (General Chat) - Newcastle Canary, Jan 22, 15:48:21

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