another straw man

no-one is saying to bet all the money on gambling for promotion. There is a balance of reducing the wage bill and liabilities while still making signings aimed at making an immediate impact, rather than ones that may come good after 3 or 4 windows when the team is complete.

A more immediate term plan using experienced Championship players and managers, under the same budgetary constraints as we have now, is no more of a gamble than a long term plan putting everything in the hands of Farke and Webber imo.

Posted By: Mecagoenti on March 7th 2018 at 15:28:57

Message Thread

Looking at the table just makes it more frustrating (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 7, 09:43:41
- Go and and have a wank. Far more productive than worrying about this load of old squit (n/m) (NCFC) - thirsty work, Mar 7, 11:37:03
- The same Mitrovic who is on 50k+ a week? (NCFC) - Waz, Mar 7, 10:55:31
  - short term loans are pointless though (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 12:05:46
    - Not if you have an option to buy if get promoted (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 7, 12:42:54
      - we were 13th, fulham were in 7th and 8 points ahead (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 12:53:43
  - For 20 weeks. £1m cost. In any event Mitrovic was an example (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 7, 11:29:53
    - Our only chance going forward is to... (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 7, 14:23:10
    - The sale of these players is plugging a huge hole in our finances, (NCFC) - Waz, Mar 7, 12:53:29
    - vmt - we spent more on signing Srbeny than Fulham have on loaning Mitrovic (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 11:36:30
      - Both approaches are gambles (NCFC) - CWC, Mar 7, 12:53:20
        
        I'm not sure one of them had a greater downside potential than the other (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 13:05:10
        
        if we get relegated with our current approach the debts will still be manageable (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 13:13:37
        
        bit of a straw man there (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 13:23:09
        
        you've extrpolated a long way from Jim's original post there about what he means (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 13:48:59
        
        well, this isn't his only post on the subject (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 13:57:17
        
        as his differing posts on short-term loans proves - yes it does change (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 14:21:53
        
        you're caricaturing his arguments again (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 14:37:01
        
        lolf! any loan can be beneficial or any loan can turn out to be shit (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 14:53:07
        
        I never said that, I was talking about Leitner (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 7, 15:24:40
        
        it was in a post referring to Lietner's signing but your exact words were (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 15:53:20
        
        they read what they want to read (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 7, 14:02:22
        
        we read the conspiracy theories and question them, for sure (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 15:05:38
        
        We’ve had our share of bad luck to key injuries to Klose and Pritchard (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Mar 7, 14:04:57
      - How do we know this?... (NCFC) - loz, Mar 7, 12:01:39
        
        we have spent quite a lot (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 12:58:42
        
        We are not skint because we have had to sell 30m pound worth of players ... (NCFC) - loz, Mar 7, 13:11:52
        
        The sales are irrelevant in this context though (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 13:16:32
        
        Well plenty to suggest that at least some of them will be a success ... (NCFC) - loz, Mar 7, 13:37:58
        
        sure, some of them will probably be successful (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 14:00:48
        
        Well we have officially the poorest owners in the championship ... (NCFC) - loz, Mar 7, 14:02:58
        
        but we're not skint (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 14:31:50
        
        They’ve not sold millions and millions of pounds worth of players though and ... (NCFC) - loz, Mar 7, 14:52:00
        
        but that's irrelevant to the argument of whether or not we are skint (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 15:07:31
        
        if we'd have bet all the money of gambling on promotion this season (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 15:17:29
        
        Then we have to sell an extra player in the summer and you accept that because we'd at (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 7, 15:29:41
        
        unless we signed another Naismith or Jarvis... (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 16:15:48
        
        another straw man (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 15:28:57
        
        it's not a fucking strawman (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 15:58:45
        
        that's not the same as saying gambling all the money on promotion (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 16:42:14
        
        Would be a bit odd not to give 100% support to your CEO and manager (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Mar 7, 17:13:44
        
        well, obviously that would be a bit odd (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 17:19:39
        
        nice back-peddaling, super work you're doing there (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 16:58:43
        
        I think you've got confused (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 17:15:46
        
        not me being confused... (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 17:23:43
        
        in that case, we are in agreement (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 17:52:20
  - ^What he said. (n/m) (NCFC) - bird table, Mar 7, 11:28:17
  - 👍👍👍 (n/m) (NCFC) - Dunney, Mar 7, 11:01:19
  - Very much this 👍🔝 (n/m) (NCFC) - Worthing Yellow, Mar 7, 11:00:13
- Get a hobby Jim. You need some thing else to think about (NCFC) - CB41, Mar 7, 10:24:08
  - yeah cos you clearly have a varied lfe trhe time (NCFC) - asics_kit, Mar 7, 11:31:13
    - well he has varied usernames! (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Mar 7, 17:44:59
  - why do you think he needs something else to think about? (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Mar 7, 10:31:59
    - its Jim, he's not a happy clapper like a lot on here. (NCFC) - Men without hats, Mar 7, 17:47:13
- We’re a below average champ side (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 7, 10:02:56
  - We have a better players than anyone bar Wolves, Boro and perhaps Fulham (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 7, 10:26:42
    - Not sure we have better players than Derby or Villa as well (NCFC) - earlydoors, Mar 7, 11:18:35
      - Sunderland have 'better' players in their starting XI than us IMO. (n/m) (NCFC) - Waz, Mar 7, 11:26:12
    - dropping nelson (NCFC) - paulg, Mar 7, 10:53:13
    - it's not just about quality of players though, but the type of players (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 7, 10:38:53
      - We are short of a striker or two yes, thats Webber's fault and indicative (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 7, 10:50:16
        
        That first para is utter rot (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Mar 7, 13:00:26
        
        Hahahaha (n/m) (NCFC) - Dunney, Mar 7, 11:00:34
        
        If your best striker isn’t training properly then why... (NCFC) - loz, Mar 7, 10:56:16
        
        Imagine how Farke would have managed grant holt (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 7, 11:04:44
  - Imagine thinking this team could catch up 10 points (NCFC) - Charles21, Mar 7, 10:11:11
- Forget about players like Mitrovic, there is no way we will pay his wages (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Mar 7, 10:02:14
- Just give it up pal (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Mar 7, 09:57:43
- We never look like scoring until we go behind lately. (n/m) (NCFC) - hoolahan, Mar 7, 09:49:05

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