Personal experience:- first generation to go to Uni

With all my friends too. We also received a free education at Uni and didn't have to pay 30 grand for it.

Its difficult to identify an article today as the Sutton Trust has swamped the media with the articles you are referring too saying mobility is bunk based on free school meals figures. Regurgitated by Guardian, Times etc.
Free school meals wasn't something I recall in my days so the numbers can't be challenged plus they are basing it on the very few (160?) Grammars left which by definition are largely in well to do areas. So 3% free school meals in schools already in expensive catchment areas proves the point eh?

Statistics and damned statistics. Don't believe every article you read. The media today is flooded with duplication of this one article. There is also a LOT of people who dare not say anything against popular opinion. It feels just like Brexit. Oh hang on have we stopped talking about Brexit, wonder why?

However please furnish me with the Comprehensive is a success for mobility articles and I think you will see my point. It doesn't exist either.

There is an agenda being ground out today and the ones suffering are the really bright kids who cant afford to go to private school and the ones who would benefit from an apprenticeship at 14 but cant get one because they were phased out at the same time as Grammar/Secondary Mods.

Posted By: Basingstoke_Canary on September 9th 2016 at 15:25:12

Message Thread

RE The Tories plans for schools (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Sep 9, 13:44:23
- Some sweeping statements and assumptions in there. I take it you support Corbyn. (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 14:19:06
  - Absolute tosh. Start to finish. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 15:21:46
    - did say last night grammar schools to allow up to 25% from lower income families (NCFC) - Men without hats, Sep 9, 16:32:59
  - Sweeping statements like "bog standard comprehensives" (NCFC) - phelans tash, Sep 9, 14:49:44
  - Put it like this............................... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Sep 9, 14:44:36
    - ...private company would have take money out of the school (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 15:10:15
    - Some excellent points, however (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 15:05:27
      - Come late to this but....... (NCFC) - Tressells Broadbrush, Sep 9, 19:01:27
        
        No words to describe how much I love this post. Thank you. (n/m) (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 10, 00:06:21
      - Absolutely agree on bad teachers; My ex is a Compo Head Teacher....... (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 9, 16:04:54
        
        She needs to get better HR advice. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 17:28:51
        
        That's rubbish actually. (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris, Sep 9, 18:49:23
        
        You've obviously never been responsible for having to try and sack a bad teacher! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 9, 18:33:56
        
        Many, many times. (n/m) (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 19:35:47
      - So you are an unqualified failed state school teacher... (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 15:24:32
        
        Its nigh oin impossiblt to get rid of bad teachers unless they are looking for a pay-off.. (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 9, 16:07:08
        
        Not in my experience. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 17:30:03
        
        Most d hooks have to and the Union almost always takes the teachers side. (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 9, 18:35:17
        
        That's the job of the Union. But they're often not right. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 19:38:19
        
        Most heads ffs! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 9, 18:35:39
        
        Teaching 30 years ago However my kids experince bad teachers every day (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 15:27:08
        
        From my own experience at least one year for 20 years. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 15:48:22
      - Comprehensives aren't being held up as some miracle cure though, Grammar schools are (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 9, 15:13:57
        
        Yes vthey are and they have been since the 60s when they were the reason to remove Grammar (n/m) (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 15:28:27
        
        at this moment in time the return to Grammar schools are being held up as a 'miracle cure' (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 9, 15:51:30
    - Excellent points (n/m) (NCFC) - colincanary, Sep 9, 14:47:23
  - "Far more people got to University from lower class homes when Grammar schools existed" (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 9, 14:39:19
    - Like the evidence that Comps have improved social mobility you mean? (n/m) (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 14:58:43
      - i'm not the one making that claim. Do you have evidence to back you claim up please? (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 9, 15:11:02
        
        Personal experience:- first generation to go to Uni (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 15:25:12
        
        8% eligible for free school meals in grammar school areas (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 9, 15:42:59

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