"Far more people got to University from lower class homes when Grammar schools existed"

(apart from the fact that grammar schools still exist - i think we know what you mean by that)

link up your evidence then please?

Posted By: Ralf Scrampton on September 9th 2016 at 14:39:19

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RE The Tories plans for schools (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Sep 9, 13:44:23
- Some sweeping statements and assumptions in there. I take it you support Corbyn. (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 14:19:06
  - Absolute tosh. Start to finish. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 15:21:46
    - did say last night grammar schools to allow up to 25% from lower income families (NCFC) - Men without hats, Sep 9, 16:32:59
  - Sweeping statements like "bog standard comprehensives" (NCFC) - phelans tash, Sep 9, 14:49:44
  - Put it like this............................... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Sep 9, 14:44:36
    - ...private company would have take money out of the school (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 15:10:15
    - Some excellent points, however (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 15:05:27
      - Come late to this but....... (NCFC) - Tressells Broadbrush, Sep 9, 19:01:27
        
        No words to describe how much I love this post. Thank you. (n/m) (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 10, 00:06:21
      - Absolutely agree on bad teachers; My ex is a Compo Head Teacher....... (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 9, 16:04:54
        
        She needs to get better HR advice. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 17:28:51
        
        That's rubbish actually. (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris, Sep 9, 18:49:23
        
        You've obviously never been responsible for having to try and sack a bad teacher! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 9, 18:33:56
        
        Many, many times. (n/m) (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 19:35:47
      - So you are an unqualified failed state school teacher... (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 15:24:32
        
        Its nigh oin impossiblt to get rid of bad teachers unless they are looking for a pay-off.. (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 9, 16:07:08
        
        Not in my experience. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 17:30:03
        
        Most d hooks have to and the Union almost always takes the teachers side. (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 9, 18:35:17
        
        That's the job of the Union. But they're often not right. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 19:38:19
        
        Most heads ffs! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 9, 18:35:39
        
        Teaching 30 years ago However my kids experince bad teachers every day (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 15:27:08
        
        From my own experience at least one year for 20 years. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 15:48:22
      - Comprehensives aren't being held up as some miracle cure though, Grammar schools are (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 9, 15:13:57
        
        Yes vthey are and they have been since the 60s when they were the reason to remove Grammar (n/m) (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 15:28:27
        
        at this moment in time the return to Grammar schools are being held up as a 'miracle cure' (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 9, 15:51:30
    - Excellent points (n/m) (NCFC) - colincanary, Sep 9, 14:47:23
  - "Far more people got to University from lower class homes when Grammar schools existed" (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 9, 14:39:19
    - Like the evidence that Comps have improved social mobility you mean? (n/m) (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 14:58:43
      - i'm not the one making that claim. Do you have evidence to back you claim up please? (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 9, 15:11:02
        
        Personal experience:- first generation to go to Uni (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 15:25:12
        
        8% eligible for free school meals in grammar school areas (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 9, 15:42:59

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