Some sweeping statements and assumptions in there. I take it you support Corbyn.

God help us. Far more people got to University from lower class homes when Grammar schools existed compared to the bog standard comprehensives we have today. Middle classes can pay for better education anyway. Today's comps don't work and standards have declined relative to the rest of the world who aren't hung up on selection.

All politicians are liars anyway. Labour gave us loads of private funded schools and hospitals with massive debts to boot. So you are playing with words to be honest. Are you saying that was a better way? Private is not necessarily bad nor is state owned. Claiming either is the best way forward is the mistake. Arguments against both.

Posted By: Basingstoke_Canary on September 9th 2016 at 14:19:06

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RE The Tories plans for schools (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Sep 9, 13:44:23
- Some sweeping statements and assumptions in there. I take it you support Corbyn. (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 14:19:06
  - Absolute tosh. Start to finish. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 15:21:46
    - did say last night grammar schools to allow up to 25% from lower income families (NCFC) - Men without hats, Sep 9, 16:32:59
  - Sweeping statements like "bog standard comprehensives" (NCFC) - phelans tash, Sep 9, 14:49:44
  - Put it like this............................... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Sep 9, 14:44:36
    - ...private company would have take money out of the school (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 15:10:15
    - Some excellent points, however (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 15:05:27
      - Come late to this but....... (NCFC) - Tressells Broadbrush, Sep 9, 19:01:27
        
        No words to describe how much I love this post. Thank you. (n/m) (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 10, 00:06:21
      - Absolutely agree on bad teachers; My ex is a Compo Head Teacher....... (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 9, 16:04:54
        
        She needs to get better HR advice. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 17:28:51
        
        That's rubbish actually. (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris, Sep 9, 18:49:23
        
        You've obviously never been responsible for having to try and sack a bad teacher! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 9, 18:33:56
        
        Many, many times. (n/m) (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 19:35:47
      - So you are an unqualified failed state school teacher... (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 15:24:32
        
        Its nigh oin impossiblt to get rid of bad teachers unless they are looking for a pay-off.. (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 9, 16:07:08
        
        Not in my experience. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 17:30:03
        
        Most d hooks have to and the Union almost always takes the teachers side. (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 9, 18:35:17
        
        That's the job of the Union. But they're often not right. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 19:38:19
        
        Most heads ffs! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 9, 18:35:39
        
        Teaching 30 years ago However my kids experince bad teachers every day (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 15:27:08
        
        From my own experience at least one year for 20 years. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Sep 9, 15:48:22
      - Comprehensives aren't being held up as some miracle cure though, Grammar schools are (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 9, 15:13:57
        
        Yes vthey are and they have been since the 60s when they were the reason to remove Grammar (n/m) (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 15:28:27
        
        at this moment in time the return to Grammar schools are being held up as a 'miracle cure' (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 9, 15:51:30
    - Excellent points (n/m) (NCFC) - colincanary, Sep 9, 14:47:23
  - "Far more people got to University from lower class homes when Grammar schools existed" (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 9, 14:39:19
    - Like the evidence that Comps have improved social mobility you mean? (n/m) (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 14:58:43
      - i'm not the one making that claim. Do you have evidence to back you claim up please? (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 9, 15:11:02
        
        Personal experience:- first generation to go to Uni (NCFC) - Basingstoke_Canary, Sep 9, 15:25:12
        
        8% eligible for free school meals in grammar school areas (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 9, 15:42:59

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