Let's be honest we don't what's best - we can't know can we.

It's all subjective. For every argument there is a counter argument and the EU is such a beast 99% really don't know what is going on and that probably includes most in Brussels.

Posted By: Men without hats on February 20th 2016 at 15:17:25

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I've worked with and against EU institutions for the last fifteen years or so (General Chat) - Old Man, Feb 20, 11:02:53
- Very good post until you said it hinges on trade... We are massively net importers (General Chat) - Boris, Feb 20, 15:37:17
- Let's be honest we don't what's best - we can't know can we. (General Chat) - Men without hats, Feb 20, 15:17:25
- Everything that's wrong with the EU as it is..... (General Chat) - archroy, Feb 20, 14:51:08
  - Hear Hear! The EU's main function seems to be to provide lucrative jobs (General Chat) - dennis moore, Feb 20, 16:01:54
- Agreed. Plus I don't trust the Tories so I like the idea of the EU having a say (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Feb 20, 13:48:24
  - The Tories want to stay in. You don't trust that? (General Chat) - Boris, Feb 20, 15:44:49
    - Some do some don't! (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Feb 20, 16:29:55
  - vmt ^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Feb 20, 14:45:55
- The other problem with the European Parliament is that (General Chat) - Jim, Feb 20, 13:28:51
- Workers rights and protections & Human Rights is a big factor for me (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Feb 20, 12:55:57
  - VMT - there is a good chance the tories would steer us towards the US model (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Feb 20, 13:58:21
  - Agreed (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Feb 20, 13:51:01
- A good argument... but fuck em (General Chat) - harry boulders, Feb 20, 11:14:12
  - Interesting suggestion (General Chat) - King, Feb 20, 11:40:41
  - other countries wouldn't leave though (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Feb 20, 11:17:56
    - Does Britain really have that much economic power these days anyway? (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Feb 20, 12:15:23
      - Our main export is services, which keep the economy afloat (General Chat) - King, Feb 20, 12:34:09
        
        What's our balance of trade with the rest of the EU? Tariffs can work both ways. (n/m) (General Chat) - dennis moore, Feb 20, 13:27:45
        
        Deficit in trade in goods, surplus in trade in services (General Chat) - King, Feb 20, 13:57:31
      - Definitely agree that UK needs Europe more than the other way around (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Feb 20, 12:23:33
        
        But that's not what the evidence shows is it (General Chat) - Jim, Feb 20, 13:06:09
        
        Where are these figures that show the EU is so reliant on the UK? (General Chat) - King, Feb 20, 14:11:51
        
        Not reliant but trade deficit of ?59 billion in 2014 (General Chat) - Jim, Feb 20, 14:54:15
        
        Do you think, let's say China, will take us more seriously as just Britain or as part of (General Chat) - APB, Feb 20, 13:14:15
        
        I think we would lose in some areas and probably gain in others. I (General Chat) - Jim, Feb 20, 14:43:56
        
        Frankfurt would supplant London as the main European financial centre (General Chat) - Old Man, Feb 20, 12:32:19
        
        yep, long term it would be disastrous for the UK (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Feb 20, 12:43:22
        
        Is it a divorce or an amputation? (General Chat) - APB, Feb 20, 12:29:38
    - Or they just might (General Chat) - harry boulders, Feb 20, 11:25:56
- A really interesting summary and echoes my reasons for voting in (General Chat) - Duck, Feb 20, 11:13:49
- The argument about the EU budget not being signed off is a red herring (General Chat) - King, Feb 20, 11:13:18

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