The worrying thing is

That had we had a further 5 yrs of labour and gordon then its likely the economy would have continued into deep decline rather than start to mend- so the economy would more then likely have been even more f**ked than it was 5 years ago. There would have been less money to spend, so labour would have bankrupted us like greece, italy, ireland, portugal (all failed socialist countries) had they continued to spend/borrow at the same rate.

Posted By: Cheltenham_Canary on April 9th 2015 at 13:16:41

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A little story for you about the current govt and the cuts to Welfare/disabilities, (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 11:48:53
- Is it a Tory or a labour Council and how are its finances? (General Chat) - Jim, Apr 9, 14:31:23
- Has Labour promised to reverse those cuts? (General Chat) - CWC, Apr 9, 13:09:36
  - I'm not saying labour is going to be any better, (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 13:48:13
    - fairy muff (General Chat) - CWC, Apr 9, 13:58:42
      - Yes they have but unfortunately there's very little if anything they can do, (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 22:25:33
  - The worrying thing is (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 13:16:41
    - I don't agree with that tbh (General Chat) - CWC, Apr 9, 13:52:12
      - I'd be more likely to agree with you.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 14:22:09
    - how on earth are you defining a socialist country? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 13:51:03
      - In this sense (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 14:22:49
        
        i see... (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 14:28:03
- one thing that raises is for me is as which point is it the council's fault? (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 12:53:05
  - This was a government mandate, (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 13:08:55
    - where was it? i'd like to know more (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 13:40:54
      - North of England (n/m) (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 13:44:07
        
        specifically? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 13:51:31
        
        Sorry mate, I can't say specifically. (n/m) (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 22:26:07
  - You're pretty well spot on imo (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 12:57:37
    - That's the case for Chorley under Labour and we also have a really good MP. (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 9, 13:42:26
      - I mentioned earlier somewhere (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 15:20:47
- ...and for balance... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 12:30:41
  - It's more the fact that they knowingly did what they did, (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 12:42:45
    - I agree..... But you posted it to make a point about your political beliefs. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 12:51:32
      - No, I posted it as an example of some of the things that are going on that most people... (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 13:06:14
        
        Fair enough (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 13:29:13
  - and for more balance... (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Apr 9, 12:38:38
    - Half of those cuts have already started, (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 12:44:58
    - And for even MORE balance.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 12:43:36
      - So the way to do it then is to take from people who genuinely need it? (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 12:47:16
        
        Yep, and give it to those who already have loads in the hope that they will spread it (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 9, 12:53:05
        
        Thats not true tho is it.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 12:55:09
        
        That's more to do with labour costs though than tax... (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Apr 9, 13:46:08
        
        I used to visit the dyson factory years ago (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 13:49:33
        
        or he could've expanded if he was happy with a lower profit margin... (General Chat) - CWC, Apr 9, 14:01:15
        
        No doubt... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 14:08:55
        
        My mate is just moving back there from their offices in Singapore.. (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Apr 9, 14:04:49
        
        I bet they'll wait till they push the button till after May. (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 14:07:08
        
        if Dyson moved to Eastern Europe your point about higher rate tax payers might be valid (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 13:43:45
        
        Far east, sorry.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 13:46:14
        
        ok, if Dyson moved to the far east your point about higher rate tax payers might be valid (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 14:02:05
        
        So he outsourced for cheap labour and to bring down supplier costs... (n/m) (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Apr 9, 13:51:43
        
        No... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 14:03:05
        
        so not to do with him personally being a higher rate tax payer then? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 14:07:37
        
        Who knows - but certainly the corporation tax would have been an issue (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 15:17:35
- Totally agree (General Chat) - bullsch, Apr 9, 12:21:28
- .... (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 9, 12:20:13
- The Big Society (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Apr 9, 11:55:53

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