Has Labour promised to reverse those cuts?

From everything I've heard so far (eg Tristram Hunt on R4 earlier this morning), when pressed on whether Labour will actually reverse all of the changes that they have been criticising the Coalition for, the answer has been 'No'. So I find it hard to work out what they are offering that's very much different, except the downside risk of not having a great track record on handling the economy.

If you compare the Tory spending plans with Labour's spending plans, they're broadly the same.

I'm not going to defend the indefensible (fwiw my wife has a disability so these things are v dear to my heart) but don't kid yourself that Labour is going to be very much better.

It is very convenient for Westminster to cut Local Govt spending, whilst de-centralising services and pushing these down to the Local Govt level, because then the responsibility for cuts sits with local councils. That happened under Labour, it happens under the current Coalition, and it'll continue to happen under whatever rainbow Coalition we get next.

Posted By: CWC on April 9th 2015 at 13:09:36

Message Thread

A little story for you about the current govt and the cuts to Welfare/disabilities, (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 11:48:53
- Is it a Tory or a labour Council and how are its finances? (General Chat) - Jim, Apr 9, 14:31:23
- Has Labour promised to reverse those cuts? (General Chat) - CWC, Apr 9, 13:09:36
  - I'm not saying labour is going to be any better, (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 13:48:13
    - fairy muff (General Chat) - CWC, Apr 9, 13:58:42
      - Yes they have but unfortunately there's very little if anything they can do, (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 22:25:33
  - The worrying thing is (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 13:16:41
    - I don't agree with that tbh (General Chat) - CWC, Apr 9, 13:52:12
      - I'd be more likely to agree with you.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 14:22:09
    - how on earth are you defining a socialist country? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 13:51:03
      - In this sense (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 14:22:49
        
        i see... (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 14:28:03
- one thing that raises is for me is as which point is it the council's fault? (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 12:53:05
  - This was a government mandate, (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 13:08:55
    - where was it? i'd like to know more (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 13:40:54
      - North of England (n/m) (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 13:44:07
        
        specifically? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 13:51:31
        
        Sorry mate, I can't say specifically. (n/m) (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 22:26:07
  - You're pretty well spot on imo (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 12:57:37
    - That's the case for Chorley under Labour and we also have a really good MP. (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 9, 13:42:26
      - I mentioned earlier somewhere (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 15:20:47
- ...and for balance... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 12:30:41
  - It's more the fact that they knowingly did what they did, (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 12:42:45
    - I agree..... But you posted it to make a point about your political beliefs. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 12:51:32
      - No, I posted it as an example of some of the things that are going on that most people... (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 13:06:14
        
        Fair enough (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 13:29:13
  - and for more balance... (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Apr 9, 12:38:38
    - Half of those cuts have already started, (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 12:44:58
    - And for even MORE balance.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 12:43:36
      - So the way to do it then is to take from people who genuinely need it? (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Apr 9, 12:47:16
        
        Yep, and give it to those who already have loads in the hope that they will spread it (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 9, 12:53:05
        
        Thats not true tho is it.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 12:55:09
        
        That's more to do with labour costs though than tax... (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Apr 9, 13:46:08
        
        I used to visit the dyson factory years ago (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 13:49:33
        
        or he could've expanded if he was happy with a lower profit margin... (General Chat) - CWC, Apr 9, 14:01:15
        
        No doubt... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 14:08:55
        
        My mate is just moving back there from their offices in Singapore.. (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Apr 9, 14:04:49
        
        I bet they'll wait till they push the button till after May. (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 14:07:08
        
        if Dyson moved to Eastern Europe your point about higher rate tax payers might be valid (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 13:43:45
        
        Far east, sorry.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 13:46:14
        
        ok, if Dyson moved to the far east your point about higher rate tax payers might be valid (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 14:02:05
        
        So he outsourced for cheap labour and to bring down supplier costs... (n/m) (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Apr 9, 13:51:43
        
        No... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 14:03:05
        
        so not to do with him personally being a higher rate tax payer then? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 9, 14:07:37
        
        Who knows - but certainly the corporation tax would have been an issue (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Apr 9, 15:17:35
- Totally agree (General Chat) - bullsch, Apr 9, 12:21:28
- .... (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 9, 12:20:13
- The Big Society (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Apr 9, 11:55:53

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