so they had better players but lost them

all Lambert's money could go to improving the team - other teams had to spend theirs just to replace the quality people they had sold.

Doesn't make it any easier for those teams to be improved (rather than left the same).

Of course not all of those teams have improved so the comparison isn't that relevant. They are better than Villa now because they were better before.

The problem with Lambert isn't just that he didn't improve them (lots of teams don't improve) but the sheer negative soul-destroying nature of the football being played, that gave no remote prospect of improvement

Posted By: mr carra on February 16th 2015 at 14:23:07

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"Villa's net spend over Lambert's three seasons at the club is a whisker shy of ?50m. That (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Feb 16, 13:37:24
- And if they'd have sold Benteke they'd be in the black transfer wise I'd imagine (n/m) (Other Football) - Brom, Feb 16, 14:12:03
  - And be even worse! (Other Football) - mr carra, Feb 16, 14:29:26
  - Ah, missed the 'net' bit (Other Football) - Brom, Feb 16, 14:26:41
    - That was in response to DoY below (n/m) (Other Football) - Brom, Feb 16, 14:27:03
  - He'd have gone for about ?20-?25m probably (Other Football) - duke of york, Feb 16, 14:18:11
- blimey thats a lot. Contradictory though.."he bought badly" "won't be a surprise when Tim (Other Football) - Tony Martin, Feb 16, 13:58:55
  - no it isn't a lot at all! (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 14:02:36
    - It's not a lot ... (Other Football) - loz, Feb 16, 14:04:51
- who did villa have worth selling? (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 13:44:01
  - like us really - Lambert at Villa basically IS Hughton here (Other Football) - mr carra, Feb 16, 14:02:48
    - hughton's net spend over double the previous 2 seasons put together (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 14:05:28
      - what relevance are the previous seasons? (Other Football) - mr carra, Feb 16, 14:12:50
        
        but we were atrocious last season (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 14:16:49
        
        is anyone denying that? (Other Football) - mr carra, Feb 16, 14:27:09
        
        didn't watch boro (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 14:38:29
        
        is that Man City who didn't take them seriously? (Other Football) - mr carra, Feb 16, 14:41:57
        
        oh right so you told us all to lump on the away win? (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 14:45:12
        
        I don't talk betting bullsh*t like you (Other Football) - mr carra, Feb 16, 14:48:39
        
        but love to aftertime (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 14:50:17
      - Isn't that the issue though... (Other Football) - loz, Feb 16, 14:09:45
    - lol - very true (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Feb 16, 14:03:12
  - so he's spent ?50m and made all the player's he's bought worthless? (n/m) (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Feb 16, 13:53:42
    - not at all worthless (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 13:58:35
      - Should still be capable of scoring a goal now and again? (n/m) (Other Football) - loz, Feb 16, 13:59:48
        
        of course, defo deserved to be sacked (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 14:02:11
        
        Whilst you're trolling your head off, can you cut out the offensive drivel please (Other Football) - pants, Feb 16, 14:33:44
        
        EBTTT (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Feb 16, 14:41:54
        
        glad the monday crowd get to appreciate my gag last night (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 14:47:44
        
        was a great gag (Other Football) - Charles21, Feb 16, 14:59:39
        
        vmt (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Feb 16, 14:02:50
    - No-one says they're worthless (Other Football) - norway, Feb 16, 13:56:10
      - he hasn't been sacked for failing to finish in the top 10 (n/m) (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Feb 16, 14:01:28
        
        Where are we going with this? (Other Football) - norway, Feb 16, 14:02:08
        
        It doesn't have to be going anywhere (Other Football) - Old Git, Feb 16, 14:07:33
        
        No it isn't. It's a contradiction. (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Man, Feb 16, 14:31:16
        
        the piece inferred a decent enough budget compared to other mid-table teams (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Feb 16, 14:06:28
    - Is ?50m much over 2.5 years for a Prem team? (Other Football) - duke of york, Feb 16, 13:55:59
      - it's more than "Everton, Newcastle, QPR, Stoke, Southampton, Sunderland, Swansea and West (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Feb 16, 14:08:58
        
        saints spent 68 million last summer (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 14:21:52
        
        they bought ?68m worth while selling ?93m worth? (Other Football) - mr carra, Feb 16, 14:35:56
        
        oh jesus are you for real?! (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 14:39:37
        
        Unlike you I actually have (Other Football) - mr carra, Feb 16, 14:47:26
        
        that is far too simplistic of a view (Other Football) - Brandonio, Feb 16, 14:54:37
        
        I agree it helps if people pay you enormously over the odds for players (Other Football) - mr carra, Feb 16, 15:02:49
        
        nobody is denying saints are doing great (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 14:54:34
        
        Wow, that is incredible (Other Football) - Brandonio, Feb 16, 14:45:08
        
        Some of those teams had players leave for big money (Other Football) - duke of york, Feb 16, 14:11:22
        
        so they had better players but lost them (Other Football) - mr carra, Feb 16, 14:23:07
        
        Well yes, that's true - he's had a shocker this season in particular (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Feb 16, 14:50:43
        
        he could have brought them on and made some money (Other Football) - Tombs, Feb 16, 14:14:53
        
        which is the point (Other Football) - norway, Feb 16, 14:13:55
      - we spent over 40m net in the 3 prem seasons (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 14:00:36
    - ^^^ a greengrocer got into the system there (n/m) (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Feb 16, 13:54:06
  - bannan and collins made most of the 5 million received over 3 seasons (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 13:50:12
    - we done well to get shot of langberts when we did really (n/m) (Other Football) - Tombs, Feb 16, 13:54:20
  - Precisely. Dum stat. (Other Football) - norway, Feb 16, 13:49:21
    - ?50m he's spent on 'not good enough'? (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Feb 16, 13:57:23
      - Correct (Other Football) - norway, Feb 16, 14:00:00
        
        SCC??? (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Feb 16, 14:12:53
        
        comparing with saints and spurs is beyond ridiculous though (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 14:15:06
        
        But they DID sell them (Other Football) - mr carra, Feb 16, 14:32:29
        
        wow so simplistic (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 14:56:52
        
        In what way isn't it true (Other Football) - mr carra, Feb 16, 15:07:58
        
        you need to look beyond the maths (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 15:11:30
        
        of course it's more complicated than just then numbers (Other Football) - mr carra, Feb 16, 15:18:00
        
        'They have had one of the lowest net spends in the Premier League.' (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Feb 16, 14:23:58
        
        but not fair to use it against lambert which it is (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 15:09:00
        
        why not????? (Other Football) - mr carra, Feb 16, 15:13:26
        
        brandonio began to explain it... (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 15:46:34
        
        he really didn't (Other Football) - mr carra, Feb 16, 16:02:22
    - He did buy a lot of shite though... (Other Football) - loz, Feb 16, 13:53:16
      - mostly 2-3m signings (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 16, 13:54:52
        
        Still prepared to waste wages on Joe cole... (Other Football) - loz, Feb 16, 13:59:01
        
        Lerner closed his wallet after o'Neill left. Complete policy change. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Feb 16, 13:56:59
      - He bought the shit he could afford (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Feb 16, 13:54:47
        
        Couldn't have spent joe Coles wages on better? (n/m) (Other Football) - loz, Feb 16, 14:01:40
        
        He failed. No doubt. (Other Football) - norway, Feb 16, 14:03:51
  - paul lambert (n/m) (Other Football) - Tombs, Feb 16, 13:44:44
    - Jed Steer (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Feb 16, 13:46:41
      - In hindsight not a great move. (Other Football) - Ken Breadstick, Feb 16, 13:56:53
      - all the greats (n/m) (Other Football) - Tombs, Feb 16, 13:48:17

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