Because of our wage bill. Because we did ultimately end up 11th. Because Hughton's record

On a budget is overall very good. And because I've never rated our squad.

Meaning that when fans of other clubs look at us, they expect us to struggle and couldn't really understand what our problem was. They weren't entirely wrong in that (they were partly though).

Posted By: thebigfeller on April 28th 2014 at 21:10:09

Message Thread

Things that I don't understand (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:28:30
- re: point 3. (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 28, 21:05:42
  - he wanted to move to a bigger club on a fatter wage... (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 28, 21:08:15
    - I agree but Celtic are literally the only club he's ever shown any loyalty to. (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 28, 21:23:04
    - Burnley clearly aren't a bigger club, even though they had some parachute money. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Apr 28, 21:13:00
      - perhaps being a lot closer to Glasgow was a factor (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 28, 21:14:43
  - It does look like that, yes. His decision-making abilities are awful (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 21:07:43
- What would be the requirements to meet the 'background or expertise in football' critera? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Apr 28, 20:59:02
  - 5 years' experience working at at least a Championship club I'd say (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 21:00:13
    - if you've been working at a championship club for five years (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 28, 21:04:12
    - Working at a championship club? In what capacity? (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Apr 28, 21:02:46
      - CEO, MD, someone pretty high up at least. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 21:05:35
- I never post things that people tell me about the club. (NCFC) - APB, Apr 28, 20:58:29
  - this is absolutely what I have heard from a minor employee and also some of (NCFC) - lovely old job, Apr 28, 21:05:24
    - Fat lot of good it did us. Maybe he should have worked on coaching how to attack instead. (n/m) (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Apr 28, 21:06:46
      - It's a long term thing though, isn't it? (NCFC) - APB, Apr 28, 21:11:47
        
        But it will be because of the boards investment in youth not any manager. (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Apr 28, 21:15:06
  - First team matters is all a manager should be concerned about. (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Apr 28, 21:02:55
    - It's not planning for himself, it's for the club. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Apr 28, 21:09:14
      - But would a first team manager have a say over youth investment? (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Apr 28, 21:13:09
        
        Depends whether he's employed to make football decisions or coach, I guess. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Apr 28, 21:14:14
    - A manager should never, EVER get to veto youth development though (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 21:07:11
- Chris Hughton wasn't an experienced manager either (NCFC) - Ben, Apr 28, 20:52:36
  - I didn't actively WANT Hughton - but I'd never criticise them for appointing him (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:54:45
    - I agree but alarm bells started ringing for me 4-5 games in and (NCFC) - lovely old job, Apr 28, 21:01:32
      - Interesting. I think we all saw warning signs (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 21:04:35
        
        Why the change of heart after Arsenal though? You were spot on at the time. (n/m) (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Apr 28, 21:08:03
        
        Because of our wage bill. Because we did ultimately end up 11th. Because Hughton's record (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 21:10:09
        
        Not sure we're such a poor squad. It's about getting the best out of the players and (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Apr 28, 21:21:38
    - the biggest problem really was it was such a huge change in style (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 28, 20:57:09
      - Yes. I think the thinking process behind it was sound though. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:59:03
- RvW has been advising Fry on comedy - did you not see his Fulham ghost pass (n/m) (NCFC) - pat_abb, Apr 28, 20:35:29
- Give Stephen Fry a shot at choosing the next manager. Alan Davies, Ross Noble dream team (n/m) (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Apr 28, 20:34:21
- Regarding point one (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 28, 20:33:38
  - In 2009, Delia and Michael were going around asking people for advice on how to run a (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:37:50
    - Find that almost impossible to believe (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 28, 20:56:33
      - I do too at times. :( (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 21:01:28
      - lol (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 28, 20:59:23
    - I will never forget the shareholder meeting that year, Michael head in hands (NCFC) - lovely old job, Apr 28, 20:45:16
    - doesn't that suggest a level of diligence and humility though (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 28, 20:40:07
      - Of course it does - but only in absolute extremis, ie. with the club months from admin (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:41:45
        
        I personally don't think they have learnt anything, maybe they just like the (NCFC) - lovely old job, Apr 28, 20:46:32
        
        the appointment of stephen fry was/is just boggling (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:51:44
        
        After the Reading game in 2009, Fry posted on his blog wailing about his beloved Canaries (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:53:27
        
        lolf (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:57:04
        
        It was just a big old publicity stunt, but pointless. (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, Apr 28, 20:52:46
        
        raise company profile (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 28, 20:52:34
        
        I guess it's possible (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 28, 20:45:37
        
        well, we'll see about that this summer (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 28, 21:16:20
        
        true.. would be a potentially huge blow if he left (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 28, 21:20:28
      - ROLF (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 28, 20:40:26
        
        I have to say that is one of the funniest exchanges I've seen on here (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 28, 20:42:47
    - zing! (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 28, 20:39:24
    - really? (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:39:09
      - Yes really. Good on them for doing so. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:39:33
        
        i take it your friend was asked in a professional capacity? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:40:47
        
        Certainly was. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:42:20
        
        was it Larry? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Apr 28, 20:44:24
        
        Nope. My mate isn't on here. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:46:44
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 28, 20:50:12
  - "they must have learnt absolutely loads" (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:36:40
  - Also, they have always consulted football people like Dave Stringer. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Apr 28, 20:35:05
    - not in recent times they haven't. (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, Apr 28, 20:50:24
    - Who is a lovely guy, and an NCFC legend, but was a manager more than 20 years ago (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:38:28
      - Indeed but still a 'football person' (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Apr 28, 20:39:26
        
        agreed (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:48:19
- money (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 28, 20:31:24
- People who run football clubs are never usually footballers. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Apr 28, 20:30:36
  - Well run clubs might be owned by people without a background in football (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:32:10
    - Like who? (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 28, 20:34:41
    - mcNally has a long background in football. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Apr 28, 20:34:27
      - and Delia and MWJ have 20 years of experience as owners now (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 28, 20:38:28
  - same as experts like me (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 28, 20:31:22
    - Who shall we appoint as the new manager? Nadal, Djokovic or Murray? (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:36:00
      - Murray would be awful (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 28, 20:37:08
        
        more defensive than Hughton.... is that even possible? (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 28, 21:10:38
      - lol (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 28, 20:36:54
- Hahahaha! MASSIVE lol (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:29:48
- brevity? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:28:52
  - *And how to use this forum too :( (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:30:42
    - arf (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:31:46
  - Tom Cruise? (n/m) (NCFC) - Upperjarroldmiddle, Apr 28, 20:30:34

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