I agree but alarm bells started ringing for me 4-5 games in and

after we were totally humped by Liverpool and we were tactically clueless I was saying to my mates he should be sacked. Then before the Arsenal home game he said, We will have to have a very very good day and Arsenal a very very bad day for us to get a result'' I just thought inferiority complex is back. We did actually win but for me he had lost me already.

Posted By: lovely old job on April 28th 2014 at 21:01:32

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Things that I don't understand (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:28:30
- re: point 3. (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 28, 21:05:42
  - he wanted to move to a bigger club on a fatter wage... (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 28, 21:08:15
    - I agree but Celtic are literally the only club he's ever shown any loyalty to. (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 28, 21:23:04
    - Burnley clearly aren't a bigger club, even though they had some parachute money. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Apr 28, 21:13:00
      - perhaps being a lot closer to Glasgow was a factor (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 28, 21:14:43
  - It does look like that, yes. His decision-making abilities are awful (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 21:07:43
- What would be the requirements to meet the 'background or expertise in football' critera? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Apr 28, 20:59:02
  - 5 years' experience working at at least a Championship club I'd say (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 21:00:13
    - if you've been working at a championship club for five years (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 28, 21:04:12
    - Working at a championship club? In what capacity? (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Apr 28, 21:02:46
      - CEO, MD, someone pretty high up at least. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 21:05:35
- I never post things that people tell me about the club. (NCFC) - APB, Apr 28, 20:58:29
  - this is absolutely what I have heard from a minor employee and also some of (NCFC) - lovely old job, Apr 28, 21:05:24
    - Fat lot of good it did us. Maybe he should have worked on coaching how to attack instead. (n/m) (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Apr 28, 21:06:46
      - It's a long term thing though, isn't it? (NCFC) - APB, Apr 28, 21:11:47
        
        But it will be because of the boards investment in youth not any manager. (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Apr 28, 21:15:06
  - First team matters is all a manager should be concerned about. (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Apr 28, 21:02:55
    - It's not planning for himself, it's for the club. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Apr 28, 21:09:14
      - But would a first team manager have a say over youth investment? (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Apr 28, 21:13:09
        
        Depends whether he's employed to make football decisions or coach, I guess. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Apr 28, 21:14:14
    - A manager should never, EVER get to veto youth development though (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 21:07:11
- Chris Hughton wasn't an experienced manager either (NCFC) - Ben, Apr 28, 20:52:36
  - I didn't actively WANT Hughton - but I'd never criticise them for appointing him (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:54:45
    - I agree but alarm bells started ringing for me 4-5 games in and (NCFC) - lovely old job, Apr 28, 21:01:32
      - Interesting. I think we all saw warning signs (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 21:04:35
        
        Why the change of heart after Arsenal though? You were spot on at the time. (n/m) (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Apr 28, 21:08:03
        
        Because of our wage bill. Because we did ultimately end up 11th. Because Hughton's record (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 21:10:09
        
        Not sure we're such a poor squad. It's about getting the best out of the players and (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Apr 28, 21:21:38
    - the biggest problem really was it was such a huge change in style (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 28, 20:57:09
      - Yes. I think the thinking process behind it was sound though. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:59:03
- RvW has been advising Fry on comedy - did you not see his Fulham ghost pass (n/m) (NCFC) - pat_abb, Apr 28, 20:35:29
- Give Stephen Fry a shot at choosing the next manager. Alan Davies, Ross Noble dream team (n/m) (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Apr 28, 20:34:21
- Regarding point one (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 28, 20:33:38
  - In 2009, Delia and Michael were going around asking people for advice on how to run a (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:37:50
    - Find that almost impossible to believe (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 28, 20:56:33
      - I do too at times. :( (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 21:01:28
      - lol (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 28, 20:59:23
    - I will never forget the shareholder meeting that year, Michael head in hands (NCFC) - lovely old job, Apr 28, 20:45:16
    - doesn't that suggest a level of diligence and humility though (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 28, 20:40:07
      - Of course it does - but only in absolute extremis, ie. with the club months from admin (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:41:45
        
        I personally don't think they have learnt anything, maybe they just like the (NCFC) - lovely old job, Apr 28, 20:46:32
        
        the appointment of stephen fry was/is just boggling (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:51:44
        
        After the Reading game in 2009, Fry posted on his blog wailing about his beloved Canaries (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:53:27
        
        lolf (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:57:04
        
        It was just a big old publicity stunt, but pointless. (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, Apr 28, 20:52:46
        
        raise company profile (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 28, 20:52:34
        
        I guess it's possible (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 28, 20:45:37
        
        well, we'll see about that this summer (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 28, 21:16:20
        
        true.. would be a potentially huge blow if he left (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 28, 21:20:28
      - ROLF (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 28, 20:40:26
        
        I have to say that is one of the funniest exchanges I've seen on here (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 28, 20:42:47
    - zing! (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 28, 20:39:24
    - really? (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:39:09
      - Yes really. Good on them for doing so. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:39:33
        
        i take it your friend was asked in a professional capacity? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:40:47
        
        Certainly was. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:42:20
        
        was it Larry? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Apr 28, 20:44:24
        
        Nope. My mate isn't on here. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:46:44
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 28, 20:50:12
  - "they must have learnt absolutely loads" (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:36:40
  - Also, they have always consulted football people like Dave Stringer. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Apr 28, 20:35:05
    - not in recent times they haven't. (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, Apr 28, 20:50:24
    - Who is a lovely guy, and an NCFC legend, but was a manager more than 20 years ago (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:38:28
      - Indeed but still a 'football person' (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Apr 28, 20:39:26
        
        agreed (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:48:19
- money (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 28, 20:31:24
- People who run football clubs are never usually footballers. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Apr 28, 20:30:36
  - Well run clubs might be owned by people without a background in football (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:32:10
    - Like who? (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 28, 20:34:41
    - mcNally has a long background in football. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Apr 28, 20:34:27
      - and Delia and MWJ have 20 years of experience as owners now (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 28, 20:38:28
  - same as experts like me (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 28, 20:31:22
    - Who shall we appoint as the new manager? Nadal, Djokovic or Murray? (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:36:00
      - Murray would be awful (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 28, 20:37:08
        
        more defensive than Hughton.... is that even possible? (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 28, 21:10:38
      - lol (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 28, 20:36:54
- Hahahaha! MASSIVE lol (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:29:48
- brevity? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:28:52
  - *And how to use this forum too :( (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 28, 20:30:42
    - arf (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 28, 20:31:46
  - Tom Cruise? (n/m) (NCFC) - Upperjarroldmiddle, Apr 28, 20:30:34

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