I meant, I wasn't going to go into a "but he said this, then he did this

then he did that", with me doing a list in defence, when in the end it all went wrong

Worthington's whole management career was built on luck, he got Crouch and Huckerby at just the right time, he was under pressure before that, just look at the results before they arrived, he was being found out

From the premiership onwards, Worthington put us in a big mess. Considering we're not a club like Derby who sacked Davies, he had it on a plate to create a new era here, instead he single handedly screwed it up. I believe that. Why would we go from 8m in debt, to the premiership, parachute payments and the like and be 18m in debt

The board need to shoulder some of the blame for not seeing it, but ultimately, in the terms of impact on the club, Worthington was very dangerous

If I said to you Roeder will take us to the prem and help our 18m debt, but will take us down sign a load of s**t and then leave with us in 30m. With foresight on your side, would you think it a good thing?

Posted By: pants on December 23rd 2007 at 13:55:06

Message Thread

Season half over (NCFC) - Poomers Gorn Hoiper, Dec 22, 17:49:09
- Disagree (NCFC) - Kev, Dec 22, 18:43:56
- I'd be happy with staying up to be honest, given where we went when Peter Cunt left. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 22, 17:53:46
  - I'd go with that (NCFC) - Poomers Gorn Hoiper, Dec 22, 18:07:39
    - I wouldn't (NCFC) - pants, Dec 22, 18:47:31
      - Do you still think he was fired too soon? (NCFC) - Kev, Dec 22, 18:58:39
        
        He had plans an ideas like Roeder has, and he had big set backs (NCFC) - pants, Dec 22, 19:29:10
        
        "I'm not interested in going into this" (NCFC) - Charles21, Dec 23, 11:12:34
        
        I meant, I wasn't going to go into a "but he said this, then he did this (NCFC) - pants, Dec 23, 13:55:06
        
        so Worthington put us into this mess (NCFC) - Charles21, Dec 24, 00:05:22
        
        30m debt (NCFC) - pants, Dec 23, 13:56:20
        
        Good response (NCFC) - Kev, Dec 22, 22:08:16
        
        As you know from before, (NCFC) - Alan, Dec 22, 20:48:10
        
        It's funny how those players are trying a lot harder now though, isn't it? (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 22, 21:02:27
        
        He critised when we were playing terribly... (NCFC) - Alan, Dec 23, 08:43:40
        
        No, he criticised when we'd played well too, even singling out individuals (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 23, 09:31:45
        
        Fucking great post. Spot on. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Dec 22, 20:01:53
        
        He was a complete fucking idiot. End of. (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Dec 22, 19:44:14
        
        Fair enough, your opinion. One Newcastle and West Ham fans probably hold about (NCFC) - pants, Dec 22, 19:51:32
        
        and Watford fans (NCFC) - blindasabat, Dec 22, 19:53:28
        
        good post (n/m) (NCFC) - blindasabat, Dec 22, 19:42:17
  - That should read "where we were", not "where we went." (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 22, 17:59:00
    - yea, he was a bit of a (NCFC) - shoddy, Dec 22, 18:21:55
      - I had a lot of reservations over his man-management at the time (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 22, 18:22:56
        
        Although i didn't like him as a manager, he did forgo 750k payout, he did care. (n/m) (NCFC) - Andyjzr, Dec 22, 18:33:28
    - I don't see any reason why we should be anywhere near promotion next season (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 22, 18:07:46
      - miserable git... (NCFC) - blindasabat, Dec 22, 18:13:48
        
        not miserable at all. I shall be happy if we stay up (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 22, 18:23:40
        
        you are missing 2 things (NCFC) - blindasabat, Dec 22, 18:32:23
        
        I agree with not talking about Boxing day, we've not even had Christmas eve/day yet :) (n/m) (NCFC) - Andyjzr, Dec 22, 19:02:25
        
        Hmmmm. (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 22, 18:38:03
        
        Port's rather nice (n/m) (NCFC) - Andyjzr, Dec 22, 19:55:10
        
        no one does, but it's christmas... (NCFC) - blindasabat, Dec 22, 18:41:32

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