It's funny how those players are trying a lot harder now though, isn't it?

Grant couldn't manage his players, which made him a failure at a pretty fundamental level.

And before anyone starts going "They get paid loads, they should play well for Grant even if they don't like him", it's not about money, it's about an emotional response to someone - if someone repeatedly slags you off without good reason (especially in public!) you're not going to like them and you're not going to perform for them. It's as simple as that.

Posted By: Ottosson Foxtrot on December 22nd 2007 at 21:02:27

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Season half over (NCFC) - Poomers Gorn Hoiper, Dec 22, 17:49:09
- Disagree (NCFC) - Kev, Dec 22, 18:43:56
- I'd be happy with staying up to be honest, given where we went when Peter Cunt left. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 22, 17:53:46
  - I'd go with that (NCFC) - Poomers Gorn Hoiper, Dec 22, 18:07:39
    - I wouldn't (NCFC) - pants, Dec 22, 18:47:31
      - Do you still think he was fired too soon? (NCFC) - Kev, Dec 22, 18:58:39
        
        He had plans an ideas like Roeder has, and he had big set backs (NCFC) - pants, Dec 22, 19:29:10
        
        "I'm not interested in going into this" (NCFC) - Charles21, Dec 23, 11:12:34
        
        I meant, I wasn't going to go into a "but he said this, then he did this (NCFC) - pants, Dec 23, 13:55:06
        
        so Worthington put us into this mess (NCFC) - Charles21, Dec 24, 00:05:22
        
        30m debt (NCFC) - pants, Dec 23, 13:56:20
        
        Good response (NCFC) - Kev, Dec 22, 22:08:16
        
        As you know from before, (NCFC) - Alan, Dec 22, 20:48:10
        
        It's funny how those players are trying a lot harder now though, isn't it? (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 22, 21:02:27
        
        He critised when we were playing terribly... (NCFC) - Alan, Dec 23, 08:43:40
        
        No, he criticised when we'd played well too, even singling out individuals (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 23, 09:31:45
        
        Fucking great post. Spot on. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Dec 22, 20:01:53
        
        He was a complete fucking idiot. End of. (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Dec 22, 19:44:14
        
        Fair enough, your opinion. One Newcastle and West Ham fans probably hold about (NCFC) - pants, Dec 22, 19:51:32
        
        and Watford fans (NCFC) - blindasabat, Dec 22, 19:53:28
        
        good post (n/m) (NCFC) - blindasabat, Dec 22, 19:42:17
  - That should read "where we were", not "where we went." (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 22, 17:59:00
    - yea, he was a bit of a (NCFC) - shoddy, Dec 22, 18:21:55
      - I had a lot of reservations over his man-management at the time (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 22, 18:22:56
        
        Although i didn't like him as a manager, he did forgo 750k payout, he did care. (n/m) (NCFC) - Andyjzr, Dec 22, 18:33:28
    - I don't see any reason why we should be anywhere near promotion next season (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 22, 18:07:46
      - miserable git... (NCFC) - blindasabat, Dec 22, 18:13:48
        
        not miserable at all. I shall be happy if we stay up (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 22, 18:23:40
        
        you are missing 2 things (NCFC) - blindasabat, Dec 22, 18:32:23
        
        I agree with not talking about Boxing day, we've not even had Christmas eve/day yet :) (n/m) (NCFC) - Andyjzr, Dec 22, 19:02:25
        
        Hmmmm. (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 22, 18:38:03
        
        Port's rather nice (n/m) (NCFC) - Andyjzr, Dec 22, 19:55:10
        
        no one does, but it's christmas... (NCFC) - blindasabat, Dec 22, 18:41:32

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