not miserable at all. I shall be happy if we stay up

and don't blame anyone who's still at the club for where we are.

But facts are facts, blindas. We don't have any players left who the teams challenging for promotion would really want, perhaps our keeper aside. And we don't and won't have the resources to sign a player that any of those teams also want.

Of course, Roeder might turn out to be one of those managers capable of building a team that's much better than the sum of its parts. Or he might turn out to have a great eye of player that other clubs miss. Or we might just get really lucky.

But no reason to *expect* any of those things, surely?

Which is why I don't see any reason to expect us to suddenly start challenging for promotion.

Or am I missing something?

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on December 22nd 2007 at 18:23:40

Message Thread

Season half over (NCFC) - Poomers Gorn Hoiper, Dec 22, 17:49:09
- Disagree (NCFC) - Kev, Dec 22, 18:43:56
- I'd be happy with staying up to be honest, given where we went when Peter Cunt left. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 22, 17:53:46
  - I'd go with that (NCFC) - Poomers Gorn Hoiper, Dec 22, 18:07:39
    - I wouldn't (NCFC) - pants, Dec 22, 18:47:31
      - Do you still think he was fired too soon? (NCFC) - Kev, Dec 22, 18:58:39
        
        He had plans an ideas like Roeder has, and he had big set backs (NCFC) - pants, Dec 22, 19:29:10
        
        "I'm not interested in going into this" (NCFC) - Charles21, Dec 23, 11:12:34
        
        I meant, I wasn't going to go into a "but he said this, then he did this (NCFC) - pants, Dec 23, 13:55:06
        
        so Worthington put us into this mess (NCFC) - Charles21, Dec 24, 00:05:22
        
        30m debt (NCFC) - pants, Dec 23, 13:56:20
        
        Good response (NCFC) - Kev, Dec 22, 22:08:16
        
        As you know from before, (NCFC) - Alan, Dec 22, 20:48:10
        
        It's funny how those players are trying a lot harder now though, isn't it? (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 22, 21:02:27
        
        He critised when we were playing terribly... (NCFC) - Alan, Dec 23, 08:43:40
        
        No, he criticised when we'd played well too, even singling out individuals (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 23, 09:31:45
        
        Fucking great post. Spot on. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Dec 22, 20:01:53
        
        He was a complete fucking idiot. End of. (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Dec 22, 19:44:14
        
        Fair enough, your opinion. One Newcastle and West Ham fans probably hold about (NCFC) - pants, Dec 22, 19:51:32
        
        and Watford fans (NCFC) - blindasabat, Dec 22, 19:53:28
        
        good post (n/m) (NCFC) - blindasabat, Dec 22, 19:42:17
  - That should read "where we were", not "where we went." (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 22, 17:59:00
    - yea, he was a bit of a (NCFC) - shoddy, Dec 22, 18:21:55
      - I had a lot of reservations over his man-management at the time (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 22, 18:22:56
        
        Although i didn't like him as a manager, he did forgo 750k payout, he did care. (n/m) (NCFC) - Andyjzr, Dec 22, 18:33:28
    - I don't see any reason why we should be anywhere near promotion next season (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 22, 18:07:46
      - miserable git... (NCFC) - blindasabat, Dec 22, 18:13:48
        
        not miserable at all. I shall be happy if we stay up (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 22, 18:23:40
        
        you are missing 2 things (NCFC) - blindasabat, Dec 22, 18:32:23
        
        I agree with not talking about Boxing day, we've not even had Christmas eve/day yet :) (n/m) (NCFC) - Andyjzr, Dec 22, 19:02:25
        
        Hmmmm. (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 22, 18:38:03
        
        Port's rather nice (n/m) (NCFC) - Andyjzr, Dec 22, 19:55:10
        
        no one does, but it's christmas... (NCFC) - blindasabat, Dec 22, 18:41:32

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