they didn't prepare properly

they weren't fit enough
they fielded badly
I don't think Stokes/McCullum/Bazball bring out the best in many of the players - batsman in particular - it's like playing 4 up front and aving a larf, without consequences - it'll work against poor teams; it'll sometimes work against better teams; but it's fundamentally flawed - I'm interested in maximising the chances of winning, not just enjoying the odd champagne moment
so yes, of course, we might well have lost anyway - but this was a very poor tour indeed - I think the coming weeks will reveal more much of that

Posted By: paulg on January 8th 2026 at 13:15:08

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Few quick wickets, could happen (n/m) (Other Sports) - DrDublin, Jan 8, 00:08:54
- Agnew nailed it (Other Sports) - paulg, Jan 8, 07:57:09
  - Agnew (Other Sports) - APB, Jan 8, 18:03:36
  - He didn't, he's letting his frustrations with moments obscure the bigger picture. (Other Sports) - megson, Jan 8, 10:30:52
    - good points well made (Other Sports) - Chris Peacock, Jan 8, 12:18:24
      - That is true RE Cummins and Hazlewood, a fair point. (Other Sports) - megson, Jan 8, 12:57:13
    - Great stattage (n/m) (Other Sports) - Knitted Jesus, Jan 8, 11:21:13
    - And if you’re not convinced by stats and data (if so, cricket isn’t for you, surely?) (Other Sports) - APB, Jan 8, 11:11:18
      - 100% agree. That 2 day test set a narrative. There were two teams in that though (Other Sports) - megson, Jan 8, 11:29:23
      - In fact, I’d say that they copied us (Other Sports) - APB, Jan 8, 11:18:43
    - Agnew basically does this every time, except (Other Sports) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 8, 11:07:07
  - There are other ways of looking at it (Other Sports) - APB, Jan 8, 08:40:34
    - There have been mistakes and some daft shots, but ultimatly (Other Sports) - megson, Jan 8, 10:41:45
    - Preparation, fitness, fielding.... basic stuff (Other Sports) - paulg, Jan 8, 08:51:20
      - Fair enough if you can't accept it (Other Sports) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 8, 10:20:38
        
        I don’t know, that’s a bit black and white (Other Sports) - Old Git, Jan 8, 11:34:21
        
        Home advantage is huge in cricket, though (Other Sports) - APB, Jan 8, 13:20:53
        
        Yes it is (Other Sports) - Old Git, Jan 8, 13:25:09
        
        Don't disagree it could have been better, that first test was so important (Other Sports) - megson, Jan 8, 14:07:51
        
        Very true (Other Sports) - APB, Jan 8, 14:12:28
        
        Good words, beautiful words (Other Sports) - Old Git, Jan 8, 14:33:14
        
        We have been generally competitive though. (Other Sports) - megson, Jan 8, 11:37:48
        
        If you prepare well and fail, then so be it (Other Sports) - paulg, Jan 8, 10:28:45
        
        'most commentators' have exactly the same incentive (Other Sports) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 8, 11:03:24
        
        Yes, we should have played 10 warm up matches in 02/03 not just 7. (Other Sports) - megson, Jan 8, 11:31:48
      - The problem is clearly the batting (Other Sports) - Basil Wrathbone, Jan 8, 09:46:36
      - I’m not (Other Sports) - APB, Jan 8, 09:45:01
        
        If the baby is bazball, I'm all for defenestration (Other Sports) - paulg, Jan 8, 10:17:14
        
        Do you not accept that we are better now than before McCullum? (Other Sports) - APB, Jan 8, 10:54:42
        
        Oh well then, perhaps we should cancel the next tour now and save the £££ (Other Sports) - paulg, Jan 8, 11:38:57
        
        Well that’s answered my question (Other Sports) - APB, Jan 8, 13:03:30
        
        So no touring team has ever had a night out before? When Aus come her they are tucked (Other Sports) - megson, Jan 8, 11:50:49
        
        getting pissed and having a fight with a bouncer? (Other Sports) - paulg, Jan 8, 13:18:24
        
        Getting drunk? Yes 100% that happens all the time on rest breaks on tours. (Other Sports) - megson, Jan 8, 14:09:46
        
        Shit happens, they’re people (Other Sports) - APB, Jan 8, 13:43:11
        
        Or maybe just accept that we're likely to lose when we go there (Other Sports) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 8, 11:47:07
        
        Absolutely (Other Sports) - APB, Jan 8, 13:02:09
        
        they didn't prepare properly (Other Sports) - paulg, Jan 8, 13:15:08
        
        You know what I think made it a poor tour? (Other Sports) - APB, Jan 8, 13:39:21
- C’mon England!🏏 (n/m) (Other Sports) - fareastcanary, Jan 8, 00:32:27
  - Think spin has to be worth a try (n/m) (Other Sports) - DrDublin, Jan 8, 00:47:41
    - I think this will be the last we see of Snicko, nobody has any faith in it. (n/m) (Other Sports) - DrDublin, Jan 8, 00:53:31

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