Why do you keep mentioning sports betting. How many times do I have to say that the

purpose of these metrics is not to predict the future.

You also say league position tells you all you need to know but then mention goals for and against. You’ve just proved my point.

League position tells you where you are, not why. To improve, you need metrics that dig into the underlying factors driving performance.

Here’s a simple example using a system analysis method called Goal–Question–Metric (GQM):

Goal: Improve attacking effectiveness.

Potential Questions:
1. Are we creating enough quality chances?
2. Are we converting them efficiently?
3. Which patterns (build-up, transitions, set pieces) create the most?
4. Are we losing possession too early?
5. How do we compare to top teams?

For each question, define a metric, track it over time, spot trends (e.g., if xG is steady but conversion drops, focus on finishing drills or shot selection), make changes, and see if performance improves.

The difference is perspective, you’re looking through a sports betting lens focused on prediction. Clubs use metrics for performance management to measure, adapt, and improve.

Posted By: The Gaffer on November 4th 2025 at 23:14:35

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TNC still on Tilt but to their credit they nailed xG...... (NCFC) - usacanary, Nov 4, 00:56:08
- Might be a bit stupid here but…. (NCFC) - Pistonjuice, Nov 4, 11:26:26
  - Total xG so far this season is 17.8 compared to actual goals scored of 12. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 4, 12:10:37
    - OK so tell me how many goals we SHOULD have scored. (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Nov 4, 18:09:27
    - Bad team almost always underperform xG (NCFC) - usacanary, Nov 4, 13:27:50
- Chris Reeve nails nothing. Too full of his own self-importance. (NCFC) - Boyer, Nov 4, 08:41:37
- Proper odd being against xg, it’s like being anti corners conceded stats (n/m) (NCFC) - Allen, Nov 4, 07:10:57
  - LOLz .....Thank you for making my point. (NCFC) - usacanary, Nov 4, 14:32:28
- Let it go… xG isn’t perfect and some people over-emphasise it or use it out of context (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 4, 06:06:10
  - xg is exactly the same as Polling pre election. It's mostly bollocks (n/m) (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Nov 4, 07:15:17
    - It should be banned and is ruining football (n/m) (NCFC) - footymadman, Nov 4, 09:10:28
      - Interesting take. Completely wrong, but interesting. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 4, 09:19:05
        
        Dragged out a lot by coaches when things are going badly... (NCFC) - usacanary, Nov 4, 13:29:56
        
        Yes that's completely wrong of them. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 4, 15:26:51
    - You seemed to miss the point where I said that xG doesn’t predict outcomes. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 4, 07:19:47
      - Please tell us what it does show or predict then? (NCFC) - usacanary, Nov 4, 14:35:09
        
        xG was never meant to be a predictor. Don't come at it from a sports betting angle. (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 4, 15:26:11
        
        Again, im asking, tell me how its useful, what can be gained from it. (NCFC) - usacanary, Nov 4, 18:06:58
        
        See man response below. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 4, 23:19:06
        
        "my" (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 4, 23:20:29
      - It's just some odd creation by OCD pythagoreans who think live can be explained by numbers (n/m) (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Nov 4, 07:24:34
        
        Life absolutely includes things numbers can’t capture but the fact we can’t quantify (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 4, 08:02:33
        
        Example. (NCFC) - usacanary, Nov 4, 13:23:43
        
        Why do you keep quoting league position. That's a single raw data point. it tells you (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 4, 16:05:05
        
        Wrong totally wrong..... (NCFC) - usacanary, Nov 4, 17:53:21
        
        Why do you keep mentioning sports betting. How many times do I have to say that the (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 4, 23:14:35
        
        *life (n/m) (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Nov 4, 07:24:55

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