I've been criticising Lucy Bronze and Leah Williamson all tournament
Both have underperformed, imho.
I've also criticised Wiegman for her late subs.
There's nothing wrong with criticising a player, or a team, for underperforming within the context of the current limits of their own game. Criticising women's football as a whole because of poor performances, when there have been excellent performances, and not acknowledging the reasons why women's football might be behind in quality is just pointless.
You don't have to like women's football. Evidently, other people do. Like, I don't have to take an interest in watching Mansfield v Northampton if it's on the telly but 7,500 people go and watch them and enjoy it and that's great. Good for them, I'm glad people watch it. I don't stalk Mansfield's social media and comment 'Haaland would have scored that' if Mansfield miss a penalty though which is basically the equivalent to what a lot of men seem to be commenting on England's social media channels at the moment.
There's just a huge difference between how so many people talk about the performances in the respective games. If a men's team has a bad shootout, the team and the players are criticised. If the women's team have a bad shoot out, the sport is criticised.
Kelly scored on the rebound yesterday. It was a decent penalty, it was saved. A top class male player just does not get criticised for scoring a rebound.
Women are damned either way - score a penalty, the keepers are s**t. Have a penalty saved, the strikers are s**t. It's almost as if in football, one team has to be better than the other to win. Who'd have thought!
Posted By: tim berry on July 23rd 2025 at 14:41:07
Message Thread
- In Defence of Women's Football (Too Many Words) (Other Football) - tim berry, Jul 23, 11:44:27
- criticism not allowed? (Other Football) - Tombs, Jul 23, 13:54:53
- I think there is a difference between valid criticism of performance (as per last night) (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 23, 14:19:20
- I've been criticising Lucy Bronze and Leah Williamson all tournament (Other Football) - tim berry, Jul 23, 14:41:07
- Bronze’s penalty against Sweden smashed down the middle was perfect though (n/m) (Other Football) - footymadman, Jul 23, 19:23:28
- Morgan was shocking for the Italy goal (Other Football) - Old Git, Jul 23, 15:47:40
- Some of those shootout pens were hilariously shit tbf (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 23, 14:48:44
- It was a bad penalty shootout, for sure. (Other Football) - tim berry, Jul 23, 15:01:57
- I've been criticising Lucy Bronze and Leah Williamson all tournament (Other Football) - tim berry, Jul 23, 14:41:07
- If this was the men's game there'd be a big old mass debate (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 23, 13:57:33
- What, like an article on the BBC? (Other Football) - Old Git, Jul 23, 14:35:29
- You think I'm reading an article about women's football? (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 23, 14:36:33
- What, like an article on the BBC? (Other Football) - Old Git, Jul 23, 14:35:29
- I think there is a difference between valid criticism of performance (as per last night) (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 23, 14:19:20
- ITV got thier highest viewing figures of the year last night. People are watching it (Other Football) - megson, Jul 23, 13:37:44
- I enjoy watching the Lionesses (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Jul 23, 13:02:36
- Dunno if anyone agrees... (Other Football) - BigGrantHolt, Jul 23, 12:57:17
- Hear hear (n/m) (Other Football) - footymadman, Jul 23, 19:24:26
- I wouldn't disagree with any of the above. The issue in part however (Other Football) - seminated_woolly, Jul 23, 12:57:07
- You're quite right (Other Football) - camcan, Jul 23, 12:54:18
- OOO great post, lots of interesting things here (Other Football) - Old Git, Jul 23, 12:43:50
- ^^^ VMT ^^^ (n/m) (Other Football) - The Gaffer, Jul 23, 13:35:46
- Good post (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 23, 12:42:46
- of course. as Tombo said ^ , criticism is valid (n/m) (Other Football) - Milko, Jul 23, 14:27:50
- Ace post (n/m) (Other Football) - Lentil Weaver, Jul 23, 12:22:36
- I agree with this... but can they not put Poland v Netherlands on when The Chase should (Other Football) - Pixelman, Jul 23, 12:21:45
- I can't watch The Chase (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jul 23, 12:28:53
- That's certainly an issue. (n/m) (Other Football) - Pixelman, Jul 23, 14:59:39
- I can't watch The Chase (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jul 23, 12:28:53
- Very well said (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 23, 12:17:49
- I agree (Other Football) - APB, Jul 23, 12:14:59
- 100% agree (n/m) (Other Football) - Milko, Jul 23, 12:05:22
- Girl (Other Football) - Jumbo1, Jul 23, 11:50:21
- criticism not allowed? (Other Football) - Tombs, Jul 23, 13:54:53
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