well yes - but probably no more so than usual,

but also, it doesn't scream to me of the (current) owners being resistant to selling to people they think will look after the club.

MA and the new owners will be taking a different approach to what we've been used to. It's what a lot of fans have been crying out for (there'll be more money, there'll be more on the line). The careful (somewhat elaborate) handover would seem to fulfil a number of aims around building confidence in each other, ensuring that there's funding to keep us ticking over and that the club isn't given away.

The discussion in this thread around the full takeover taking a while, makes me suspect that the new co-owners have recognised the value of the experience that Delia and Michael bring and want a smooth transition, rather than having to navigate that themselves, wholly reliant on Zoe W and whoever succeeds Stuart.

There was never the sense that these new owners would be flashing the cash Saudi oil style - so the pacing of this all looks pretty typical.

As I've discussed ad nauseum in the past, I'm not sure that new ownership will equate to us being in a radically different position to where we're currently at. We'll be more on a par financially with our peers (lower prem/upper champs) with all that that entails good/bad, but our success will still depend on us leveraging our USPs (currently, an for the foreseeable, being a good pathway for ambitious young players).

Posted By: Cardiff Canary on September 4th 2023 at 11:42:14

Message Thread

Parity shareholders as predicted … (NCFC) - loz, Sep 4, 09:34:22
- Paddy and Connor YouTube video explains everything pretty well (n/m) (NCFC) - DiscoDale, Sep 4, 11:42:51
- 'kinell at some of those terms (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Sep 4, 09:57:03
  - Be careful what you wish for... (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Sep 4, 10:34:05
    - oh I dont care, they can sell the club for a pittance if they like. (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Sep 4, 12:16:45
    - Said it multiple times.... (NCFC) - usacanary, Sep 4, 10:47:56
      - I don’t think there’s any evidence of that at this stage (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Sep 4, 10:51:05
  - Am I right in reading about this loan? (NCFC) - city_lad, Sep 4, 10:29:55
    - Yes (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Sep 4, 10:30:30
      - But 11% per annum interest (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Sep 4, 10:31:16
        
        Yes that’s just a protective factor for him (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Sep 4, 10:34:16
        
        Yes - although probably irrelevant for this loan (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Sep 4, 10:45:58
  - indeedly (n/m) (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 4, 10:27:02
- £33m (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Sep 4, 09:54:09
  - Yes but only if shareholders agree … (NCFC) - loz, Sep 4, 10:15:03
    - I’m slightly unsure of the economics (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Sep 4, 10:21:12
      - However you cut the numbers (NCFC) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 4, 11:08:14
        
        £25 per share for these (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Sep 4, 11:30:26
        
        well yes - but probably no more so than usual, (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 4, 11:42:14
        
        last para is spot on (NCFC) - CWC, Sep 4, 12:43:25
        
        I think the rich benefactor model may be kind of dying out at this level (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 4, 13:02:58
        
        Quite (NCFC) - CWC, Sep 4, 13:56:25
        
        Out of curiosity, how have Brighton managed to get where they are with FFP? (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Sep 4, 13:08:23
        
        Oh, I'm sure they were definitely breaching it (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 4, 13:17:28
        
        Are they not spending more than their turnover every season though? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Sep 4, 13:20:47
        
        Given the transfer fees they've received in the past couple of years I'd guess not now! (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 4, 13:21:43
        
        Everton are the poster boys for Prem FFP problems (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 4, 13:23:51
        
        There is the possibility that the loan will be repaid (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Sep 4, 13:00:56
        
        The thing that I haven’t seen yet is why £25 is considered to be the MV per share (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Sep 4, 11:57:53
        
        doesn't the £25 per share come from the value agreed by Foulger? (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 4, 12:20:21
        
        Balance sheet value does not normally equal MV (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Sep 4, 12:30:10
        
        Yeah, wasn't trying to spell that out to you (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 4, 12:53:00
        
        Yeah sorry, I wasn’t meaning to sound offended (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Sep 4, 12:54:34
        
        lolf - I'm probably just sensitised (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 4, 12:58:45
        
        Haha! (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Sep 4, 13:05:51
        
        on the minority shareholders point (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 4, 12:08:44
      - My numbers are rubbish (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Sep 4, 10:31:58
- No takeover for a minimum 3 years as stipulated by Delia and M (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Sep 4, 09:37:32
  - Told you (NCFC) - Chair_of_the_Bored, Sep 4, 09:46:08
    - any direction of travel over the next few years is down to MA (NCFC) - CWC, Sep 4, 12:34:11
    - I don’t think it’s that simplistic Delia has given away.. (NCFC) - loz, Sep 4, 12:29:19
      - if it's not written down... (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 4, 13:04:40
        
        Surely the Takeover code heard more thought in order … (NCFC) - loz, Sep 4, 13:06:10
    - Why do you think that? (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Sep 4, 09:59:19
  - Pray for Jim (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 4, 09:39:44
- Done and dusted... (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Sep 4, 09:35:48

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