It's popular to say it's popular

to slate the successful.

Really not sure that's true anymore (if ever).

The successful risktakers seem to me to be often fetishised, with some degree of ignoring the element of luck that got them there (you make that point yourself).

It'd be interesting to know if the risktakers who win balance out societywise with the risktakers who flop. Is it all just a form of gambling? And is that gambling often played with other people's money? (increasingly, the public's, money).

Politicians need to follow the rules they impose and enforce on others. Hard to see this as controversial.

Posted By: Cardiff Canary on January 29th 2023 at 18:31:05

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Somewhat inevitable... (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jan 29, 09:09:42
- Why the fuck should he be ‘proud’ (General Chat) - MonkeyPuzzle, Jan 29, 14:49:21
  - Is it? (General Chat) - APB, Jan 29, 16:01:17
    - My apologies, I read that as a reply to me. Sorry. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Jan 29, 16:04:51
- Interestingly worded statement.... (General Chat) - usacanary, Jan 29, 13:31:17
- Personally speaking, I think tax should be a matter of pride, not shame. (General Chat) - APB, Jan 29, 10:05:34
  - The altruistic dream... (General Chat) - usacanary, Jan 29, 13:24:58
    - I’m afraid, without wishing to start an argument, you’re being cynical… (General Chat) - APB, Jan 29, 16:04:05
  - There is tax avoidance (legally allowed) and tax evasion (illegal) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jan 29, 10:32:45
    - I know. (General Chat) - APB, Jan 29, 15:19:42
    - Nailed it. (General Chat) - usacanary, Jan 29, 13:46:52
      - It's popular to say it's popular (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 29, 18:31:05
    - Not all avoidance is legal (General Chat) - CWC, Jan 29, 10:47:37
      - Classic quote time... (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jan 29, 10:56:12
      - I work in financial services (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jan 29, 10:55:38
        
        Do you really call them tax avoidance? (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jan 29, 13:05:47
        
        Tax avoidance is what it is! (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jan 29, 13:33:58
        
        HMRC doesn’t agree with that (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jan 29, 13:50:38
        
        HMRC doesn’t agree with the avoidance of tax that cannot be avoided! (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jan 29, 15:04:51
        
        As I said, HMRC don’t agree with that (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jan 29, 15:06:57
        
        You mean HMRC don't consider planning = avoidance? (General Chat) - paulg, Jan 29, 16:54:48
        
        You again 🤪🤪 (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jan 29, 17:42:25
        
        Perfectly innocent question (General Chat) - paulg, Jan 29, 19:34:58
        
        🤪🤪🤪 (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jan 29, 19:58:38
        
        I genuinely have no idea what your problem is (General Chat) - paulg, Jan 29, 20:03:11
        
        Deffo! (General Chat) - CWC, Jan 29, 12:31:30
  - When faced with two legal, acceptable options for organising a persons tax affairs (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jan 29, 10:20:51
    - I would say the vast majority of people who say this... (General Chat) - usacanary, Jan 29, 13:37:42
      - Who say what? (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jan 29, 13:57:23
        
        You're making the mistake of presuming this is an objective contribution (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 29, 14:16:46
        
        Thank you. Was just thinking the same. The "look what I've got" convo is (General Chat) - Pixelman, Jan 29, 14:25:49
        
        Good point well made, thank you 👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jan 29, 14:18:23
  - Not a luxury I can afford (General Chat) - CWC, Jan 29, 10:15:19
- The die was cast when the head of HMRC stuck his nose in (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jan 29, 09:41:59
  - Some hot take there. I'm sure Sohpie Cockeran and Darren Grimes will be (General Chat) - Pixelman, Jan 29, 13:48:28
  - I think Zahawi’s position was impossible to defend (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jan 29, 10:36:00
    - He was "careless" that's all... (General Chat) - Rufus Rednuts, Jan 29, 10:56:49
  - He didn’t stick his nose in (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jan 29, 10:24:14
    - Tbf they also issue automated penalties where they aren’t due (General Chat) - CWC, Jan 29, 10:51:29
      - Are you talking about admin type penalties? (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jan 29, 12:46:52
  - Jesus wept, what incredible guff. (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 29, 10:03:48
  - Goog job he did. Any way to get rid of these utter fucking crooks (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 29, 09:54:21
  - I dont get why it was "sticking his nose in"? (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Jan 29, 09:46:09
- There's a lot of rich people who play fast and loose with their tax arrangements (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Jan 29, 09:20:51
  - Plenty of not-rich 'normals' do it too unfortunately (n/m) (General Chat) - Adster, Jan 29, 09:50:01
  - I wonder how much would be put back into the economy if all these tax avoidance schemers w (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 29, 09:32:01
    - Probably less than if the grey economy didn’t exist! (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jan 29, 10:18:19

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