No - because the new shareholder puts in cash

Say your shirt folding business is worth £1m. And it’s got 10 shares, each worth £100k.

If a new investor comes in and pays market value to subscribe for 5 more, the shirt folding business is worth £1.5m (existing value plus the £500k cash). On day 1, the existing shareholders shares are worth the same as they were before the new investor came in.

Beyond that, the value of the shares is dictated by how well the business does, including how well it invests its extra £500k.

Posted By: SimonOTBC on January 28th 2023 at 09:26:47

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Think the EDP have explained the share thingy quite straightforwardly (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Jan 28, 06:36:40
- On the dilution point….(sorry if this is really obvious) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 08:47:01
  - Yeah I see what you mean, hadn’t thought of it like that before. (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Jan 28, 09:10:00
    - No - because the new shareholder puts in cash (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 09:26:47
      - Yeah I get you, but you can’t factor in the last paragraph. (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Jan 28, 09:48:13
        
        If liquidated on day 1 it’s worth £1.5m (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 09:50:33
        
        That's true on 'day one' but one of many unknowns is what the cash will be used for. (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Jan 28, 10:26:36
        
        The new player will be an asset though and add to the value of the club (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 28, 11:37:03
        
        Plenty of our signings have diminished our value (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Jan 28, 11:52:07
        
        Of course, hence the rashica / Buendia example (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 14:52:05
        
        Mos assets depreciate but they don't lose their value the instant their photo is taken (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 28, 12:29:32
        
        Ok (n/m) (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Jan 28, 09:54:12
        
        All businesses are worth their intrinsic value (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 09:58:09
        
        Agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Jan 28, 10:06:09
  - I'm afraid you've got that all the wrong way round (NCFC) - paulg, Jan 28, 09:02:19
    - ^^ Jimmy Carr's accountant (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 28, 09:21:43
    - ? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 09:06:26
      - In my example they wouldn't (NCFC) - paulg, Jan 28, 09:33:07
        
        … (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 09:38:47
        
        (1) is only correct until the cash is converted (NCFC) - CWC, Jan 28, 12:08:14
        
        I’ve never said anything to the contrary (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 14:48:35
        
        My example was a very basic one to help out those that are less familiar with these things (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 14:51:04
        
        Eh, calm down, calm down! (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Jan 28, 16:11:53
        
        And is therefore not correct (NCFC) - paulg, Jan 28, 12:41:17
        
        No shit …. (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 14:49:15
        
        Depends how the company is valued (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Jan 28, 11:30:56
        
        🤪🤪🤪🤪 (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 14:48:56
- Also potentially the biggest injection of cash… (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 08:24:10
- I was about to post does anyone understand the share thingy? (NCFC) - Kangol Canary, Jan 28, 08:20:19
  - What i would say about this article though…. (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 08:39:52
  - We don’t know the current value as there is no readily available market value (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 08:32:01
    - Yeah I like the sound of it. At least they’re not doing things like selling the tarmac (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Jan 28, 08:37:58
  - I think it’s misleading that they’re calling them unallocated shares, it’s seems to be (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Jan 28, 08:26:52
    - It’s the only way to get cash in which isn’t debt (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 08:30:25
      - Ah I see, I couldn’t understand what they meant by it. (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Jan 28, 08:35:14
        
        Some people might have been…. (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 08:37:34
        
        I see (n/m) (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Jan 28, 08:38:30
        
        As always with these things, people look to over complicate it (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 28, 08:42:24
        
        Yep... At which point it's useful (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 28, 09:50:17
- Ye Har- can’t wait to get my hands on some more. (n/m) (NCFC) - Atta nassio here, Jan 28, 06:52:23

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