There is a bit of middle ground though, isn't there?

I enjoyed Lambert style football, acknowledging that was a different era, the style would still be effective now.

Brentford too are good to watch while also having enough physicality. Watford aren't hoofball merchants either.

Southampton and Brighton too, although with a bigger budget.

Being "effective" and not totally lightweight doesn't necessitate Burnley / Hughton football.

Posted By: SimonOTBC on January 4th 2022 at 10:29:05

Message Thread

Reasons to hate the Premier League - Official List (n/m) (NCFC) - munter, Jan 4, 09:25:01
- "Fans" not watching the game, spending time taking videos of their "heroes" (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Jan 4, 12:45:52
  - I'm still suffering from having seen that (NCFC) - paulg, Jan 4, 13:02:28
  - Norwich fans videoing Ronaldo celebrating his "penalty" against us. Truly pathetic. (n/m) (NCFC) - munter, Jan 4, 12:48:25
- Players like Ronaldo over celebrating goals against teams (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Jan 4, 12:03:18
  - Fans wetting themselves at prospect of seeing above mentioned (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Jan 4, 12:08:39
    - this^^^ (n/m) (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Jan 4, 13:20:51
  - Plus turning football into a closed boring shop (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Jan 4, 12:04:38
- Horrifying incidents such as this... (NCFC) - DrDublin, Jan 4, 11:28:27
  - That will be £15 by 2024 (n/m) (NCFC) - munter, Jan 4, 11:36:10
    - And fewer chips. (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Jan 4, 11:36:35
- Nothing to play for for 75/80% of the teams in it (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Jan 4, 11:22:37
- Money and "power" going to player's heads - thinking they are above the club/manager (n/m) (NCFC) - munter, Jan 4, 10:52:25
- Enforced entertainment, no level playing field, just US owner interference (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Jan 4, 10:49:01
- Veneer of gentrification despite undercurrents of racism, misogyny & homophobia (n/m) (NCFC) - Worthing Yellow, Jan 4, 10:40:05
  - Fuck me, Dave Spart is in the house (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Jan 4, 11:03:29
- No draft system like in the NFL. The crappest teams get the best new players (n/m) (NCFC) - NorskyNormann, Jan 4, 10:39:43
  - And easier schedules (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Jan 4, 10:51:30
    - Indeed. Helps to keep it a bit fairer over time (n/m) (NCFC) - NorskyNormann, Jan 4, 12:38:09
- The false dream we're sold that if only we did this... then we'd be able to become (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Jan 4, 10:37:25
- He felt a touch, he had a right to fall down for the penalty (NCFC) - Elmham Yellow, Jan 4, 10:37:25
  - Yes, VAR hasn't really helped (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 4, 10:41:51
    - tbf, why are players still tugging on shirts though? (NCFC) - CWC, Jan 4, 10:53:27
      - Yes, it was stupid, but it was still a ridiculous dive (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 4, 11:06:09
        
        Vmt (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Jan 4, 11:23:11
- Media generated faux excitement/expectations of transfer windows (n/m) (NCFC) - Worthing Yellow, Jan 4, 10:36:25
- Fawning, ignorant, stupid, cowardly, parasitic "commentators" (NCFC) - paulg, Jan 4, 10:31:17
- Turning up to a home game and knowing, deep down, you're probably going to lose (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 4, 10:29:42
- Sky’s obsession with the ‘big clubs’ (NCFC) - Elmham Yellow, Jan 4, 10:24:19
  - the sheer ridicule of THREE kits (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 4, 10:26:17
- Football tourists (n/m) (NCFC) - munter, Jan 4, 10:24:16
- Loss of FA CUP magic (n/m) (NCFC) - munter, Jan 4, 10:23:48
- Big Farmer (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 4, 10:17:56
  - 💯✅➕➕ (NCFC) - APB, Jan 4, 10:28:08
- You can't play gorgeous Farke Ball unless you have billions of pounds. Instead you have to (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Jan 4, 10:11:48
  - There is a bit of middle ground though, isn't there? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 4, 10:29:05
    - I loved watching the Lambert team in the Prem. I suppose what I was thinking was the idea (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Jan 4, 10:47:36
      - Not all down to physicality is it? (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 4, 11:08:30
        
        Is our play not "laboured" because we lack physicality? (n/m) (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Jan 4, 13:29:14
        
        This season that is absolutely true. I'm not counting this season. We are not proper (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Jan 4, 11:30:23
        
        It's not, but it helps (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 4, 11:14:49
      - Yes, agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 4, 10:52:44
  - And you can't always play good football even with billions of pounds (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 4, 10:13:51
- My dad always blamed Abramovich (n/m) (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Jan 4, 10:07:44
  - Your Dad was right (n/m) (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Jan 4, 12:01:37
  - He had a point (n/m) (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Jan 4, 10:12:28
- The killing of the dream that small clubs can become established (NCFC) - seminated_woolly, Jan 4, 10:05:57
  - ✅ (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Jan 4, 11:05:52
- FOOTBALL WAS DESIGNED TO BE PLAYED AT THREE O'CLOCK ON A SATURDAY (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Man, Jan 4, 09:48:26
  - Except pre-floodlights it was played earlier in mid-Winter (n/m) (NCFC) - watfordcanary, Jan 4, 12:42:24
  - designed !! (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Jan 4, 11:07:24
- Half and half scarves (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Man, Jan 4, 09:48:08
- Plastic fans (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Man, Jan 4, 09:47:58
  - 100% this (n/m) (NCFC) - DH Yellow, Jan 4, 12:22:28
- The whole model is broken. It was designed as a money grab (NCFC) - Old Man, Jan 4, 09:47:18
  - They want to pull up the drawbridge (NCFC) - Elmham Yellow, Jan 4, 10:26:51
    - I don’t think I’d mind if it became one (NCFC) - CWC, Jan 4, 10:48:29
      - Works for me (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Man, Jan 4, 11:08:04
      - I'd be happy with this (n/m) (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Jan 4, 11:04:40
  - Para payments is becoming a real conundrum (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 4, 09:53:19
    - We were a yo-yo club when it was Division 1 (NCFC) - watfordcanary, Jan 4, 12:44:18
    - It wouldn't be an issue if there wasn't so much money concentrated at the very top (NCFC) - Old Man, Jan 4, 10:01:22
- Alan Shearer and Co (n/m) (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Jan 4, 09:46:04
- Sportswashing (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Jan 4, 09:44:40
- Inconsistent refereeing which somehow always favours big teams (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Man, Jan 4, 09:42:37
  - Corruption (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Jan 4, 09:43:41
- Ill informed/patronising pundits only interested in 'Big Six' (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 4, 09:39:25
- We always finish bottom (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 4, 09:36:03
- VAR nonsense (n/m) (NCFC) - munter, Jan 4, 09:25:18

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