I'm not suggesting there are no treatments or never will be

I'm saying that if you're pinning all you hopes on a vaccine, you need to take account of how in/effective it will be, for how long it will remain effective, how available it will be, how many people will agree to take it, and so on - and all of that has to be taken into account when taking preventative measures which we know cause harm (as well as preventing some harm) - not sure why this causes you so much angst frankly

Posted By: paulg on October 29th 2020 at 09:41:01

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R is 2.86 in London now take care London wrathers (n/m) (Coronavirus) - loz, Oct 29, 07:39:30
- Which is odd given the £12 billion invested in a world beating T&T 😔 (n/m) (Coronavirus) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 29, 08:35:37
  - God you're a bore (n/m) (Coronavirus) - fond, Oct 29, 09:23:40
    - You're ok with spaffing £12 billion up the wall? Think of all the refugees and starving (Coronavirus) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 29, 13:12:28
- Have you got a source for that? (n/m) (Coronavirus) - 51eve, Oct 29, 08:35:26
  - Here... (Coronavirus) - loz, Oct 29, 08:44:16
    - https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.citya m.com/coronavirus-london-r-rate-catapult s-to-highe (n/m) (Coronavirus) - loz, Oct 29, 08:59:39
- Depressing isn’t it! (Coronavirus) - JoeyDeacon, Oct 29, 07:55:06
  - That relates to antibodies (Coronavirus) - Timmy_Goat, Oct 29, 09:21:54
    - We will be locked down for christmas (Coronavirus) - CWC, Oct 29, 09:39:06
      - I do not concur about Christmas lockdown (Coronavirus) - Timmy_Goat, Oct 29, 09:51:58
        
        Then any lockdown now is pointless (Coronavirus) - CWC, Oct 29, 10:02:57
    - Daily infections look similar to March now at 100k (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Oct 29, 09:29:40
      - You can't really compare current Infection numbers with march (Coronavirus) - Timmy_Goat, Oct 29, 09:36:43
        
        Thought react survey gave 96K now (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Oct 29, 09:43:04
        
        I don't have the paper to hand at the moment but wasn't it 1.2%? (Coronavirus) - Timmy_Goat, Oct 29, 09:57:11
        
        I think this was announced last night (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Oct 29, 10:24:17
        
        But discrepancy with other estimates (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Oct 29, 10:28:49
  - It does with a vaccine (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Oct 29, 09:15:19
  - neither will a vaccine (Coronavirus) - paulg, Oct 29, 09:15:05
    - That's not actually what the scienceresearch is suggesting at all (Coronavirus) - Cardiff Canary, Oct 29, 09:55:22
      - VMT (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Oct 29, 10:25:16
      - Good. Would different vaccines (Coronavirus) - paulg, Oct 29, 10:10:48
        
        There are about six different vaccine approaches (Coronavirus) - Cardiff Canary, Oct 29, 11:42:51
        
        Great post (n/m) (Coronavirus) - yellowman, Oct 29, 11:55:40
        
        Ta - appreciated (Coronavirus) - Cardiff Canary, Oct 29, 11:59:33
        
        Yes, thanks for that (Coronavirus) - paulg, Oct 29, 13:40:27
        
        On the sciencey stuff (Coronavirus) - Cardiff Canary, Oct 29, 13:57:58
        
        (in 138 neat tweets) (Coronavirus) - Cardiff Canary, Oct 29, 14:03:25
        
        ta (n/m) (Coronavirus) - paulg, Oct 29, 14:38:14
        
        Ffs!...glad you went for it again though (n/m) (Coronavirus) - yellowman, Oct 29, 12:30:22
    - A vaccine won;t be 100% effective but even if it reduces transmission by 60% then (Coronavirus) - Jim, Oct 29, 09:21:37
      - Infections are generally like that though (Coronavirus) - CWC, Oct 29, 09:35:48
        
        Yes but thats the point isn;t it. Kick the can down the road untiol we have a vaccine (Coronavirus) - Jim, Oct 29, 10:28:23
        
        it was meant to be to kick the can long enough to build up NHS capacity... (Coronavirus) - CWC, Oct 29, 11:00:44
        
        The virus mutations haven't impacted vaccine effectiveness (Coronavirus) - Cardiff Canary, Oct 29, 11:49:16
        
        goodo (Coronavirus) - CWC, Oct 29, 12:38:38
        
        I hear ya (Coronavirus) - Cardiff Canary, Oct 29, 12:46:09
        
        Plenty of room for positivity (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Oct 29, 13:18:12
        
        A different strain? What? (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Oct 29, 11:12:41
        
        something in the FT about it being a new strain (n/m) (Coronavirus) - CWC, Oct 29, 12:36:55
        
        I reckon he knows this too (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Oct 29, 10:50:45
      - Yep he should stop pretending to be so clueless (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Oct 29, 09:25:56
        
        not sure which bit you disagree with .. (Coronavirus) - paulg, Oct 29, 09:31:13
        
        A temporary lockdown would have (Coronavirus) - jamesward, Oct 29, 09:37:45
        
        There are already far better treatments (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Oct 29, 09:35:07
        
        I'm not suggesting there are no treatments or never will be (Coronavirus) - paulg, Oct 29, 09:41:01
        
        No angst just amazed at your attitude (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Oct 29, 09:45:40
        
        wevs (n/m) (Coronavirus) - paulg, Oct 29, 09:49:36
        
        & this is the Lancet article I had in mind (or a ref to it anyway) (Coronavirus) - paulg, Oct 29, 09:33:54
        
        Some of the vaccines being trialled (Coronavirus) - Cardiff Canary, Oct 29, 10:01:31
        
        Imperfect and might not work for everyone (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Oct 29, 09:47:44
    - Haha what (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Oct 29, 09:16:22

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