Intent is so hard to prove

For what it’s worth, I doubt they did intend to kill pc harper, I think they wanted to get away and wanted him off the rope. The way they went about that risked killing him, but that isn’t the same as intending to kill.

Manslaughter probably is right, unless there is some better evidence of intent. Being really stupid doesn’t mean it’s the crime of murder.

However, the sentence should still be very long and more or less as the same as for murder.

Posted By: SimonOTBC on July 25th 2020 at 09:49:41

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no justice for pc harper (General Chat) - earthleakage, Jul 25, 02:36:55
- There's a reason we have trials rather than relying on newspaper reports (General Chat) - Old Man, Jul 25, 11:15:16
  - This (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jul 25, 12:11:03
- Where’s OG when you need him? (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Jul 25, 09:24:31
  - Bristol (n/m) (General Chat) - Bristol Graham, Jul 25, 10:52:45
    - Newcastle are paying half (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 25, 10:53:54
- you think justice has been served? (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Jul 25, 09:16:49
  - are you winding me up? (General Chat) - earthleakage, Jul 25, 09:37:34
    - nice. (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Jul 25, 09:52:30
    - i bit into the trolls (General Chat) - earthleakage, Jul 25, 09:39:55
      - I thought a troll was (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jul 25, 10:02:45
  - The intent thing (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jul 25, 09:33:13
    - I thought the point was they didn’t know (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jul 25, 09:42:05
      - Yeah I know (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jul 25, 09:55:36
        
        Sorry (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jul 25, 10:03:45
        
        They haven’t been sentenced yet (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jul 25, 09:59:51
        
        I meant to say (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jul 25, 10:04:52
        
        Yes, probably right (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jul 25, 10:15:09
        
        Absolutely agree (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jul 25, 10:23:23
        
        I don’t really agree it’s a technicality (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jul 25, 10:41:42
        
        with aggravating factors included, maybe 10-12 yrs? (n/m) (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Jul 25, 10:04:22
        
        Up to 16 I thought, could be wrong (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jul 25, 10:12:03
        
        Max of life but most actually given these days is 10 years (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jul 25, 10:32:44
        
        Is that so? That’s disappointing (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jul 25, 10:42:48
    - Difficult to prove though, isn’t it? (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jul 25, 09:41:41
- They’ll get 12 years plus hopefully (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jul 25, 09:10:45
- Welcome back 👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - helvegtheowl, Jul 25, 08:15:58
- From what I've read (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jul 25, 07:24:08
  - Intent is so hard to prove (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jul 25, 09:49:41
    - They may not have intended (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jul 25, 11:12:23
  - you hit on my ponit without realising it (General Chat) - earthleakage, Jul 25, 07:36:56
    - Were you a judge in a past life? (n/m) (General Chat) - ghost of hucks, Jul 25, 08:05:13
      - no i wasnt (General Chat) - earthleakage, Jul 25, 08:11:39
        
        One thing we both can agree on is that this world is getting worse. (n/m) (General Chat) - ghost of hucks, Jul 25, 08:14:17
    - That's nice of you. (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jul 25, 07:42:13
      - my point wasnt about the crime (General Chat) - earthleakage, Jul 25, 07:52:02
        
        What's your problem? (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jul 25, 08:01:41
        
        Captain Bligh, we are idiots and should let this perfect higher intelligence have his day. (n/m) (General Chat) - ghost of hucks, Jul 25, 08:08:51
        
        You know (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jul 25, 08:39:25
        
        Why do you love slave traders and apologise for slavery? (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 25, 10:52:07
        
        i thnk ive answered your question (General Chat) - earthleakage, Jul 25, 08:14:31
        
        Don’t worry, you’ve said you get carried away with how you feel. It’s ok to make mistakes (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 25, 10:53:16
        
        youre right (General Chat) - earthleakage, Jul 25, 08:07:05
        
        You don't have to (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jul 25, 08:15:32
- Have you seen the photo of 2 of the toe rags grinning for the cameras... (General Chat) - ghost of hucks, Jul 25, 07:06:50
  - i'm not disagreeing it's horrendous (General Chat) - earthleakage, Jul 25, 07:31:53
    - The law is an ass/axe/arse (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Jul 25, 07:39:50

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