I agree its business sense but I think the point really is that
morally businesses should only use it if they absolutely have to do so so that such funds can be directed to those that really need it.
Premier league football clubs should not fall into this category, not yet anyway (whilst they still have the tv monies) particularly where they are paying players hundreds of thousands of pounds each a month in most cases. I know legally nobody can compel those players to take a temporary wage reduction but morally it would be the right thing for them and he clubs to look at doing. in this context the £200,000 made available by the Norwich players is of course welcome although that would appear to be a pretty small % of their salary (probably about 5% of 1 months salary each) if that's split across the whole first team squad, senior management team and the clubs owners. I suppose the question is would the morally "right" thing for them to do be to accept say a 30% or 40% cut each for three months when they are not playing and to use that money to subsidise the wages of the other staff rather than have the government do it using taxpayers money.
I own a business although I only employ myself and my wife. I won't be using the govt scheme because we are fortunate enough to be able to continue to operate even though she won't be doing any work as she has the kids at home all day now. I don't think businesses should be using these schemes unless they need to.
Conversely the government needs to sort its f**king act out on some of these much heralded measures its introduced and get them in place quicker. Its not fair to expect people to get no money til June. There are also a shed load of business owners who take their money in dividends who have no help or businesses which are not eligible for the loans/grants. I was also told by a mate this week that it is still a requirement of the loans being offered by banks under the scheme Sunak has announced that directors or owners have to personally guarantee the loans. this was not supposed to be the case and rives a huge coach and horses through the whole thing because businesses are clearly not going to take out loans on such terms and are just going to have to stop trading and/or sack people. The government was supposed to be the guarantor.
Posted By: Jim on April 2nd 2020 at 10:21:22
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- Don’t understand the flack NCFC and other clubs have had (NCFC) - ingi, Apr 2, 09:41:53
- People saying it’s like any other business. Apart fro mtgs fact our business is sitting on (NCFC) - WalksietheReturn, Apr 2, 12:15:43
- It’s morally corrupt end off. (n/m) (NCFC) - WalksietheReturn, Apr 2, 12:11:33
- It stinks (n/m) (NCFC) - yellowman, Apr 2, 11:48:44
- I agree its business sense but I think the point really is that (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 2, 10:21:22
- Totally agree Jim. (n/m) (NCFC) - ghost of hucks, Apr 2, 11:17:19
- Well said Jim (n/m) (NCFC) - neonyellow, Apr 2, 10:48:49
- it just looks a bit bad for any business that has budgeted to pay many of its staff (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 2, 10:12:42
- So pretty much any business then (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 2, 10:19:48
- no, it's not really like most businesses (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 2, 10:27:34
- "like most PL clubs seem to have done" - do you reckon they will or is it more likely that (NCFC) - WestYorksCanary, Apr 2, 10:32:27
- Most PL clubs have billionaire owners to enable them to 'swallow it' (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 2, 10:31:09
- no, it's not really like most businesses (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 2, 10:27:34
- They didn’t budget for a 40 million deficit did they Ffs (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Apr 2, 10:16:14
- What's the source for this £40 million deficit? (n/m) (NCFC) - emmaroyds, Apr 2, 10:21:21
- The athletic clubs will owe 38m each for non completion of season (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Apr 2, 11:37:39
- or receive £13m less for each of the next 3 seasons (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 2, 12:07:40
- The athletic clubs will owe 38m each for non completion of season (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Apr 2, 11:37:39
- What's the source for this £40 million deficit? (n/m) (NCFC) - emmaroyds, Apr 2, 10:21:21
- So pretty much any business then (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 2, 10:19:48
- you don't understand why paying people 20 40 50 60 70 150 400 K a week to not play footy (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 2, 10:11:24
- The two are not linked. Bizarre post (n/m) (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Apr 2, 14:51:59
- Since when did Premier League clubs have any input on NHS salary bands? (n/m) (NCFC) - WestYorksCanary, Apr 2, 10:16:41
- they have influence over paying their workers though or can they shit that on the taxpayer (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 2, 10:18:20
- You can't pay them if you lose a great chunk of your income (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 2, 10:21:33
- it is no different but how you go about your business can make a difference (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 2, 10:27:51
- That's a different argument though, Tombs (n/m) (NCFC) - WestYorksCanary, Apr 2, 10:30:20
- doesn't matter what the argument is anymore WYC x (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 2, 10:34:59
- Yes, you will...for the days like Wembley, Blackburn & Spurs that make all this worthwhile (n/m) (NCFC) - WestYorksCanary, Apr 2, 10:39:09
- doesn't matter what the argument is anymore WYC x (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 2, 10:34:59
- That's a different argument though, Tombs (n/m) (NCFC) - WestYorksCanary, Apr 2, 10:30:20
- it is no different but how you go about your business can make a difference (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 2, 10:27:51
- They are about to lose 40 million out of their business... (NCFC) - loz, Apr 2, 10:19:33
- and? it's only football. (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 2, 10:20:51
- it generates a f*** load of money for this country (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 2, 10:26:29
- as does gambling (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 2, 10:30:34
- To the non-playing staff it's a lot more than football, it's their income (NCFC) - WestYorksCanary, Apr 2, 10:23:06
- it generates a f*** load of money for this country (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 2, 10:26:29
- and? it's only football. (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 2, 10:20:51
- You can't pay them if you lose a great chunk of your income (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 2, 10:21:33
- they have influence over paying their workers though or can they shit that on the taxpayer (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 2, 10:18:20
- they're still working (training) to keep in shape (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 2, 10:15:02
- Totally agree (NCFC) - WestYorksCanary, Apr 2, 10:10:24
- It’s definitely business sense (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 09:46:11
- Do many Premier League clubs actually make profits? (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 2, 09:50:32
- That’s true (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 09:54:45
- I guess their argument would be... (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 2, 10:11:44
- That’s true (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 09:54:45
- Why Orem clubs are going to have a 40 million cash deficit soon (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Apr 2, 09:47:43
- They’re certainly trying not to (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 09:50:36
- It’s ludicrous pie in the sky though time to face reality ... (NCFC) - loz, Apr 2, 09:55:22
- I'd dispute the insurance point (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 2, 10:01:10
- Only seen Wimbledon mentioned (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 09:59:15
- It’s ludicrous pie in the sky though time to face reality ... (NCFC) - loz, Apr 2, 09:55:22
- They’re certainly trying not to (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 09:50:36
- Do many Premier League clubs actually make profits? (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 2, 09:50:32
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