Actually the point is that both IFAB and the Premier League

themselves say all calls, whether offside or not, should be clear and obvious. The current method of deciding marginal offsides is not clear and obvious, especially when you factor in a very small margin of error.

It'll change, but we'll be down by then.

Posted By: duke of york on January 2nd 2020 at 10:23:52

Message Thread

yesterdays goal (NCFC) - Kar1, Jan 2, 09:10:27
- I think they may have taken a frame too early. The ball has not left his foot (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 2, 10:49:02
  - The rule is first contact with the ball (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 10:54:14
    - No its not. Moment the ball is "played or touched" (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 2, 11:01:20
      - Eh? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 11:07:10
        
        How do they differentiate 'playing' and 'touching' the ball? (NCFC) - CWC, Jan 2, 11:20:14
        
        The say at the end they both mean first contact (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 11:21:30
        
        Ridiculous (NCFC) - CWC, Jan 2, 11:42:33
        
        Sorry I misunderstood, I thought you were suggesting it was when Zaha first (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 2, 11:18:01
- The VAR official gets 3 frames to choose from (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 10:07:24
  - Doesn’t he use the frame relevant to the status of the club ? (NCFC) - helvegtheowl, Jan 2, 16:43:01
  - Apparently they use it from the first frame it has left the foot (NCFC) - Kangol Canary, Jan 2, 14:26:45
  - the point is that there is 1/50th of a second between the frames (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 2, 10:14:54
    - And the VAR cameras are 500 fps (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 10:33:16
      - The margin of error is 30-40cm. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 2, 10:49:43
        
        That's only in extreme circumstances with two players sprinting in opposite directions (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 2, 10:56:10
        
        Yes I agree but in my view in both our games the calls have been too marginal (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 2, 11:02:37
        
        When Vrancic plays the ball to Pukki (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 11:20:19
        
        Pukki is basically standing still tbf (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 11:23:09
        
        Utter bollocks (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 10:54:38
        
        you are literally denying science, such is your zeal for VAR (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 2, 10:56:20
        
        No I am denying that margin for error (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 11:11:13
        
        it doesn't have to be a flat out sprint with the whole body moving at that speed (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 2, 11:16:50
      - Ok the goal line tech is confirmed at 500 (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 10:41:42
        
        VAR is using 50fps (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 2, 10:44:04
        
        No it isn’t possible (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 10:56:11
      - this says differently (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 2, 10:39:59
        
        Yes that’s what they broadcast in (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 10:44:19
        
        I think the statement is pretty clear (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 2, 10:46:40
        
        Phone cameras are higher ffs (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 10:51:13
        
        whatever phone cameras can do is completely irrelevant (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 2, 10:53:16
        
        Even using before or after frames (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 10:59:13
        
        Only one I've seen conclusively is that Wolves one (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 2, 11:00:41
        
        If they can’t be transparent they need to ditch it anyway (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 11:25:44
        
        Most of the other areas of contention are just down to shit refs using VAR (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 2, 11:35:49
        
        Plus the new handball laws (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 11:39:00
        
        Yep, it's like the foul on Trybull two passes before the Spurs pen (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 2, 11:42:48
        
        You can't argue with an idiot Mec - but fair play for trying. (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jan 2, 10:55:40
    - The point is (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 10:27:00
      - Ah the ramblings of SCC - a joy to behold. (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Jan 2, 10:53:45
        
        A bit like your silence whenever called out (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 2, 11:09:10
        
        True dat. (n/m) (NCFC) - avenging canary, Jan 2, 11:11:41
    - Actually the point is that both IFAB and the Premier League (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 2, 10:23:52

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