The debate about peaceful protest is separate

to the 'debate' about shoving women against a wall and grabbing them around the neck.

She was walking past him, she was not behaving in an aggressive or threatening manner.

He lost his s**t - as is reflected in his apology and suspension.

Posted By: norway on June 21st 2019 at 13:58:18

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Mark Field MP - understandable actions or excessive? (n/m) (General Chat) - Azteca, Jun 21, 11:34:16
- Well within the law (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 21, 17:46:49
  - Probably a party member (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 21, 18:55:30
- Field lied saying he was fearful etc. He knew exactly this was a non violent protest (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 21, 14:51:21
  - Oh dear! (General Chat) - Highlander, Jun 21, 19:46:27
- clearly excessive but (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 21, 14:02:17
  - There wouldn't have been this level of brouhaha - because he wouldn't have done it. (General Chat) - norway, Jun 21, 14:31:52
    - Not quite my point but suspect you are right (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 21, 18:57:52
      - Oh indeed - my point was more of an aside tbh (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jun 21, 19:23:41
  - What was the reaction to Farage & the milkshake? (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 21, 14:10:36
    - Being covered in milkshake is not really the same as (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 21, 14:24:34
      - they're both assaults (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 21, 14:32:20
        
        yeah but, would it ever be acceptable to punch a nazi? (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 21, 14:39:13
        
        Ha! That's a very good question. (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 21, 14:45:20
        
        They're totally different (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 21, 14:35:22
        
        In one sense (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 21, 14:40:34
- Totally acceptable (General Chat) - Highlander, Jun 21, 13:13:33
  - 6/10 Trolling points..... (General Chat) - usacanary, Jun 21, 14:46:55
  - Is this how you deal with women? Says a lot (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 21, 14:06:42
    - I have never had occasion to "deal" with a woman in my life (General Chat) - Highlander, Jun 21, 14:47:35
  - Imagine if she’d been gay too. What would you have liked him to do then? (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 21, 14:01:42
  - You're clearly a terrible human being (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 21, 14:01:30
    - Human? (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 21, 14:17:57
  - Thou shalt shove women against walls and grab them round the neck. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jun 21, 13:24:42
    - I'm surprised he didn't go full Trump and grab her by the pussy (General Chat) - Dunney, Jun 21, 14:40:48
  - Hat trick! ✅ (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 21, 13:18:15
    - Do we have Pukki Pies yet? (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 21, 14:00:47
      - I don't really understand the link between right wing views and tolerating assaults (General Chat) - norway, Jun 21, 14:35:44
        
        Because it was a Tory who did it? (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 21, 14:50:04
        
        I was actually going to say he mistook her for his wife.🙄 (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 21, 15:04:35
        
        Twitter has the same correlation (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 21, 14:45:05
- Why is assaulting women up for debate? Is there more than one answer? (n/m) (General Chat) - Dunney, Jun 21, 12:46:20
  - It wasn't his job to forcibly remove her after she trespassed (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 21, 12:55:04
    - He thought her greenpeace leaflets were bombs though 😂 (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 21, 14:04:28
- Absolute hero (General Chat) - Dog, Jun 21, 11:47:58
- What annoys me is that people struggle to leave their (General Chat) - Chopper, Jun 21, 11:47:54
  - i have no bother leaving my political opion out of this at all (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 21, 12:32:51
  - It is being investigated and has been denounced (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 21, 11:50:50
    - So he should be arrested but none of the security guards should be? (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 21, 12:20:11
      - They should if they were assaulting people (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 21, 12:22:16
    - Agree (n/m) (General Chat) - Chopper, Jun 21, 11:53:53
- Both (General Chat) - 702, Jun 21, 11:37:15
  - She was clearly not armed. I doubt he’d have had the balls to tackle an armed attacker (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 21, 14:05:26
- The usual suspects will say it was understandable (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 21, 11:36:27
  - I guess I’m a usual suspect but don’t see a lot wrong with what he did (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 21, 11:43:22
    - If this happened in a match what would you think? You can block and stop people without (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 21, 14:03:17
    - Jesus Christ Jim - she's walking past. (General Chat) - norway, Jun 21, 13:28:55
      - Shouldn't of been there in first place. Force maybe excessive but point stands (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 21, 13:50:19
        
        *have* (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 21, 17:30:54
        
        The debate about peaceful protest is separate (General Chat) - norway, Jun 21, 13:58:18
    - Of course it was excessive FFS (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 21, 11:57:58
      - I'm sorry but as far as i'm concerned, your barging into a dinner.. (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 21, 12:02:50
        
        What a ludicrous analogy (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 21, 12:10:05
        
        He's a troll (n/m) (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Jun 21, 12:39:36
        
        And your a goblin (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 21, 12:48:40
        
        *you're (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 21, 17:32:40
        
        You're right - will stop engaging (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 21, 12:46:54
        
        No don't (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 21, 12:55:53
        
        Feed me feed me! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 21, 13:06:29
        
        Ok. So your issue is that an MP removed her. Had it been a security guard it's a ok then (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 21, 12:19:03
        
        here's how you deal with a big angry man that starts protesting when an MP is giving a spe (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 21, 12:28:37
        
        Don't think anyone would touch him (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 21, 12:56:08
        
        I'd like to see Mark Field try to remove him by the neck (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 21, 12:33:38
        
        A trained security guard wouldn't have removed her by the neck (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 21, 12:21:07
        
        Have you done your proact script training?! Right hand on left shoulder (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 21, 12:51:45
        
        You seriously think security remove people in that fashion? (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 21, 12:57:08
        
        Depends on the situation. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 21, 13:38:23
        
        And yet security repeatably remove people using headlocks from pubs and clubs (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 21, 12:26:57
        
        If someone is being threatening or aggressive (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 21, 12:29:42
        
        But we excuse the lady's actions who put herself in that situation (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 21, 12:40:55
        
        He didn't really give her much of a choice to leave peacefully did he. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jun 21, 12:28:16
        
        She had a choice not to trespass an event and stage an unauthorised protest. (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 21, 12:44:51
        
        It was disproportionate (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 21, 13:14:01
        
        Details (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 21, 12:29:53
        
        And it’s the security guard’s job. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Jun 21, 12:21:31
        
        what happened to the Champions League streaker? (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 21, 12:12:27
        
        Grabbed round the waist I think (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 21, 12:19:01
        
        Woman grabbed round waist without her permission. (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 21, 13:12:55
        
        Here's a classic, although wouldn't google this until you're hum either... (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jun 21, 12:14:25
        
        Another usual suspect ✅ (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 21, 12:04:20
        
        Defends hooligans abroad, doesn't defend woman assualted by MP (General Chat) - norway, Jun 21, 13:36:02
        
        A woman who made a choice to trespass. (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 21, 13:46:43
        
        Agreed - she didn't deserve it. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jun 21, 13:58:41
        
        Yup, the right wingers happen to think it was all fine (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 21, 12:16:22
        
        I'm not right wing so keep your labels to yourself. (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 21, 12:21:52
        
        Haha (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 21, 12:30:42
        
        Men without hats too (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 21, 12:21:11
        
        Ah yes (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 21, 12:30:23
        
        Or Pygmy Bulb if whichever regular that is decides to hide (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 21, 12:17:33
      - Grabbing round the back of the neck was particularly unedifying, why not the arm? (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jun 21, 12:00:23
        
        Yeah, that's by far the worst bit for me (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 21, 12:09:21
        
        Because strangling women is ‘instinctive’ (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 21, 12:03:02
        
        Lol (n/m) (General Chat) - Azteca, Jun 21, 12:03:59
    - You were top of my list (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 21, 11:45:17
      - You're top of my list too. (General Chat) - Pygmy bulb, Jun 21, 12:05:48
        
        Too kind! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 21, 12:07:49

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