You haven't condoned it, no.

But you haven't condemned it either and you also said it was provoked or - of course - that it didn't really happen like that at all

...

"My point is that a portugal fan hurls a beer in the air and
its presented as a harmless, celebratory gesture. England fans do it and they are "hurling bottles at portugues fans and police."

You also said that you don't fancy standing in a square for eight hours singing. As if that is in any way relevant to the violence.

Posted By: norway on June 6th 2019 at 16:58:07

Message Thread

FFS. Twats. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, Jun 6, 14:27:35
- Yes but they can wave a blue passport when arrested now... every cloud 🙄 (n/m) (Other Football) - Worthing Yellow, Jun 6, 16:44:59
- Whereas (Other Football) - Jim, Jun 6, 16:15:09
  - Stag do bell ends. (n/m) (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 6, 17:07:17
  - Hang on. Portugal fan celebrates by throwing a beer in the air. (Other Football) - Yellalee, Jun 6, 16:20:39
    - My point is that a portugal fan hurls a beer in the air and (Other Football) - Jim, Jun 6, 16:36:26
      - It is a harmless, celebratory gesture! (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 6, 17:03:23
        
        Maybe I'll just post this again (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 17:04:53
        
        Anyway... I'm out now. The lawn won't mow itself* (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 17:06:13
        
        IIRC OG has an remote control lawn mower (n/m) (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Jun 6, 18:08:47
      - Even by the Guardian account there appears to be a semblance of truth to *what*? (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 16:59:40
        
        That the first beer was thrown by Portuguese fans. It doesn;t actually say whether (Other Football) - Jim, Jun 6, 17:11:39
        
        "Does not mean violence in response is justified." (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 18:19:03
        
        Well, none of us were there (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 6, 17:24:01
      - "... it's always an element..." (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, Jun 6, 16:49:30
    - ... (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 16:22:44
      - Fuck off back to Liverpool .... (Other Football) - yellowman, Jun 6, 17:20:55
        
        The level I expected from you to be fair (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 18:14:29
        
        My mistake (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 18:24:52
        
        One word....as opposed to.... (Other Football) - yellowman, Jun 6, 18:39:41
        
        Not really commented on the England stuff (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 19:50:56
  - Sorry its not unfortunate that younger fans are following the national team but (Other Football) - Jim, Jun 6, 16:16:45
    - "getting drawn into these types of incidents" (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 6, 17:02:04
      - And his relentless determination to defend it is incredible. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 17:03:24
    - You are shifting your argument all the time (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 16:21:46
      - I'm not making an argument. You are. (Other Football) - Jim, Jun 6, 16:32:19
        
        Semantics Jim. You are making a 'case' to deny/excuse/justify awful behaviour (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 16:34:30
        
        Or maybe he has just given his honest perspective on the matter in a broad sense (Other Football) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 6, 16:49:48
        
        Nope (Other Football) - Jim, Jun 6, 16:43:45
        
        Simply posting chunks of *other things* you have said makes no difference (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 16:48:37
        
        Where have I said that? (Other Football) - Jim, Jun 6, 16:52:44
        
        You haven't condoned it, no. (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 16:58:07
        
        I have condemned it. I said bad behaviour should be called out and that (Other Football) - Jim, Jun 6, 17:06:54
        
        You've excused it, you've suggested it was overhyped, you've said our fans may have been (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 18:16:23
        
        I condemn your violent words towards Jim. (n/m) (Other Football) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 6, 16:52:14
        
        I also condemn your selective nitpicking (n/m) (Other Football) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 6, 16:53:19
- To be honest its inevitable that when we play in destinations such as this, in (Other Football) - Jim, Jun 6, 15:47:41
  - You really do offer some genuinely bemusing takes sometimes (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 16:03:02
    - Sorry my reply above was meant to be a response to this. (n/m) (Other Football) - Jim, Jun 6, 16:17:13
  - "Get boisterous" (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 6, 16:01:48
    - Just drunk lads, excercising their rights, in the face of extreme provocation (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Jun 6, 16:23:10
      - Haha (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 16:24:06
  - hang on , we cant have sensible posts like this (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 6, 15:54:22
    - Yeah, no one said that. (n/m) (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, Jun 6, 15:56:25
- Another England fan in his early-20s had a different view of the police charges. (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 6, 15:30:29
- They're just making Britain Great again (n/m) (Other Football) - CB41, Jun 6, 14:57:02
- its a small number of fans as usual (n/m) (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 6, 14:33:16
  - its always a small number, yet on the news it always appears as a large number..? (n/m) (Other Football) - Lager top, Jun 6, 15:06:28
    - what are you trying to say (n/m) (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 6, 15:11:00
      - I think I might have cracked this. (Other Football) - norway, Jun 6, 15:29:25
  - Yeah, twats. (n/m) (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, Jun 6, 14:40:32

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