I personally don’t believe he intended it as racist, however...

He is an experienced broadcaster and football fan who grew up in an era when monkey chanting in games was commonplace, so the connotations should have occurred to him before posting. It was the non-apology apology that irritate me, the “it’s not me it’s everyone else’s fault but my own and it’s the people who identify the racist connotations who are the true racists, and I’m the victim in all of this etc” that was most disappointing.

His “satire on the posh media circus” excuse was plausible, his “I didn’t even know the baby was black” excuse less so. I’d sooner give him the benefit of the doubt over his intentions but he’d not helped himself after the error and he’s brought a lot of that criticism on himself.

Posted By: tim berry on May 10th 2019 at 18:44:53

Message Thread

Well done Danny Baker. Great apology (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, May 10, 17:32:51
- I personally don’t believe he intended it as racist, however... (General Chat) - tim berry, May 10, 18:44:53
  - Is not part of the problem here not use of phrases such as (General Chat) - Jim, May 10, 19:06:22
  - This thread has been an interesting read. I've agreed with so many of the comments - from (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, May 10, 19:00:17
    - That is also true. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, May 10, 19:13:13
    - What this whole episode brought out for me (General Chat) - Old Git, May 10, 19:09:04
      - Papers seem obsessed where and how she had her child. Tis an odd world OG. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, May 10, 19:24:36
      - This (n/m) (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, May 10, 19:18:33
      - Happens on here all the time to the royals tbf (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 10, 19:18:12
  - Exactly (n/m) (General Chat) - Yellalee, May 10, 18:48:27
  - I can't be arsed to express my opinion. (General Chat) - norway, May 10, 18:46:46
- I have argued in the past that the Macpherson Report findings trump all on racism. (General Chat) - avenging canary, May 10, 18:28:59
- BWOD outed as neither Dr Pragya Agarwal nor Scarlette Douglas (General Chat) - Old Git, May 10, 18:02:05
- Feel very sorry for him. Was a stupid tweet but (General Chat) - Jim, May 10, 17:49:42
  - He worked for 5 live a sports broadcaster (General Chat) - Pukki Pies, May 10, 18:46:21
  - Would you have posted it? (General Chat) - APB, May 10, 17:57:55
    - No but I’ve certainly said things in my time without thinking and (General Chat) - Jim, May 10, 18:03:23
      - I don’t think he’s been sacked for being racist. (General Chat) - APB, May 10, 18:06:44
        
        It was very unpleasant, regardless of the target. (n/m) (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, May 10, 18:18:46
        
        Yet Alan Sugar kept his job (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 10, 18:12:12
        
        And the BBC provides an unlimited and unchallenged platform for Fartrage (General Chat) - Dunney, May 10, 18:21:58
        
        Quite. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, May 10, 18:37:15
        
        VMT (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 10, 18:27:10
        
        Which job? (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, May 10, 18:18:41
        
        Doesn’t he still work on that apprentice shite? (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 10, 18:26:28
        
        the BBC did very little to rein in that cunt Clarkeson as well despite his flagrant racism (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, May 10, 18:30:47
        
        It’ll depend on a) the target and b) viewing / listening figures. (General Chat) - APB, May 10, 18:36:27
        
        In the end, neither Baker nor the BBC come out of this heap of shite well. (General Chat) - APB, May 10, 18:38:45
        
        Amen. Absolute clusterfuck all round. (n/m) (General Chat) - Yellalee, May 10, 18:41:25
        
        yep, nicely summed up (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, May 10, 18:55:41
        
        Agreed (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 10, 18:39:26
  - I think it was partly due to it being seen as an attack on the royals (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, May 10, 17:56:02
    - You can’t allow him the Wayne Hennessey defence. (General Chat) - APB, May 10, 18:01:00
    - If Tommy Robinson had posted that? (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, May 10, 17:58:49
      - But he’s an actual racist (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 10, 18:04:06
        
        We can all make judgements from confirmation bias, but we don't know his (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, May 10, 18:10:27
        
        He’s not really using an ignorance defence though is he? (General Chat) - Jim, May 10, 18:20:00
        
        I don't, for reasons I've already stated. Apart from that, it was fucking unpleasant. He (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, May 10, 18:30:20
        
        I'm guessing you don't know the history of him using chimps in photos then (General Chat) - Yellalee, May 10, 18:40:05
        
        This. (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, May 10, 18:54:22
        
        It’s only nasty in a racist context (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 10, 18:32:36
        
        Not really nasty is it if you take the comic interpretation (General Chat) - Jim, May 10, 18:55:23
        
        Exactly and obvs you’re replying to HW (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 10, 19:00:27
        
        No, it's nasty per se, but toxic in context. (n/m) (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, May 10, 18:46:03
        
        But it’s something he’s used plenty of times in the past (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 10, 18:13:58
        
        He used a trope common in football, and you're telling me he didn't realise? (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, May 10, 18:24:22
        
        He didn’t get away with it before you twat (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 10, 18:30:46
      - yeah agreed, but that's just it. You can't generalise and say that every tweet of that (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, May 10, 18:03:27
  - Shouldn't post pissed (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, May 10, 17:53:19
  - I think the problem was more the way he came out swinging (General Chat) - CWC, May 10, 17:51:39
    - Didn’t help him agreed but I think all he meant was that (General Chat) - Jim, May 10, 17:55:55
      - And of course many yanks got involved too (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 10, 18:05:36
        
        Surely that's rather racist? (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, May 10, 18:54:03
        
        Surely (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 10, 19:58:59
      - Yeah true (General Chat) - CWC, May 10, 17:58:29

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