you'd have to have No Deal as an option

You can't just ignore 30%< of the public entirely, that's how we got into this mess in the first place

You probably need all 3 options on the table with a single transferable vote system

which no-one understands enough because we are so wedded to FPTP

Posted By: CWC on November 16th 2018 at 10:07:08

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Confidence vote in May (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 16, 09:11:37
- Back i 2016 she helped get us into this mess though.... (General Chat) - rosarios_school_tie, Nov 16, 16:54:54
- It is a shame (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Nov 16, 13:05:42
- The biggest losers of all this will be Labour and indirectly the SNP (General Chat) - Highlander, Nov 16, 12:52:43
  - there wouldn't necessarily be a GE (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 16, 14:01:15
  - You really think the tories could gain seats? (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 16, 13:24:53
- A bit late then tbh. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 16, 10:55:58
- Nope. (General Chat) - norway, Nov 16, 10:26:02
- There is precisely no chance at all - literally none (General Chat) - Old Man, Nov 16, 09:24:06
  - I agree, the irony is that if the ERG force her out, they will get a second referendum and (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 16, 09:29:04
    - Second referendum will be stronger in favour of leave. (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Nov 16, 13:29:20
      - yeah cause literally nobody here is clever like u lot in holl land (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 16, 14:19:02
        
        Blimey some people who voted Brexit are chippy (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 16, 14:50:04
        
        I'm not chippy. (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 16, 16:55:44
        
        'cept the EU has never been unpopular in this country - most people were just meh about it (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 16, 17:03:48
        
        that is the point, yes - and you're included as much as anyone else! (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 16, 17:26:22
        
        which is why they have spending limits and rules about where donations come from... (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 16, 17:35:38
    - I don’t think there will be a second referendum (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 16, 10:18:08
    - depends on the question (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 16, 09:41:50
      - Think you make a very good point about anti EU sentiment potentially increasing (General Chat) - Chalk Hill Bitter, Nov 16, 12:34:23
      - part of the problem would be (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 16, 09:50:53
        
        How does an election clear it up any more than a referendum though? (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 16, 09:55:05
        
        you'd have to have No Deal as an option (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 16, 10:07:08
        
        all of the following are not FPTP (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 16, 11:06:39
        
        Wales & Scotland have an element of FPTP (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 16, 11:42:29
        
        the remain voters' 2nd choice would only come into play if remain polled lowest number of (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 16, 17:12:20
        
        then it would be flawed for this purpose (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 16, 22:02:11
        
        I disagree with your 2nd paragraph and it becomes a choice of deal or no change (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 16, 23:43:49
        
        I think that’s all covered by the first referendum isn’t it? (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 16, 10:22:13
        
        remain on what terms? (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 16, 10:00:09
        
        But an election doesn't "deal with it" at all does it? (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 16, 11:17:10
        
        Nope we can remain right as things are, up until March 29th (General Chat) - Bungle, Nov 16, 10:13:08
    - a second referendum would be a collosal disaster (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 16, 09:40:56
      - They wouldn't. Polling shows businesses are more concerned about (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 16, 09:56:03
        
        fuck them, businesses always hate change but the country desperately needs it (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 16, 12:43:15
        
        Yeh....fuck businesses..... (General Chat) - usacanary, Nov 16, 12:59:09
        
        if business chose government or polices, we'd all still be workhouse slaves (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 16, 13:04:34
        
        They do though. Indirectly. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Nov 16, 13:34:34
        
        Yes but the age old question is (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Nov 16, 13:21:59
- Sometimes I feel sorry for her, then I remember she wanted this job badly. (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Nov 16, 09:23:02
  - Yes very much that last part (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 16, 09:27:44
- JRM is my fecking MP (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 16, 09:20:19
  - Thats the problem though isn;t it. people just vote on party lines regardless of who the (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 16, 09:31:15

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