"Once they saw through his complete lack of tactical ability"

Pray tell, who were we supposed to finish above in 2015/16? We were out of our depth. And clubs all around us were spending plenty in different ways.

One of the problems, I think, is like most football fans, you're always so emotional about things. This leads you to become disproportionately angry very very quickly; so this manager's a 'chancer' or that board decision is a 'disgrace' or that squad 'saw through' the manager or whatever. It also leads you to wildly over-simplify all the time and act like running Norwich City or managing Norwich City is easy. It isn't.

The 2014/15 squad was built for promotion. It was a short-term fix. Even then, it only finished 3rd. Short-term fixes deliver nothing longer term - so down we came, and naturally, that by now horribly expensive squad was 18 months to 2 years past its best. It needed ripping up - so we ripped it up. It's just we did so several months too late.

And since ripping it up, we've consciously put ourselves back at square one. Nothing could've been expected last season - yet you still did. This season, I'm looking for progress, that's all... but I always knew the first half of this campaign, without Maddison, would be tough, very tough. If Farke comes through it, then we can start building. If he doesn't, we're back at square one again - but with a model which means we can only hire a certain kind of manager.

I'm not at all happy with how we've started. But expecting top 6 in his second year is ridiculous, and judging him after 3 games is also ridiculous. Barring us falling into real relegation danger, when is the time to judge Daniel Farke? After three full years. That's what the kind of enormous change we've made calls for.

Posted By: thebigfeller on August 19th 2018 at 08:45:34

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Presyon game will show how daft it was to get rid (NCFC) - CB41, Aug 19, 00:30:03
- It wasn’t. Kick and rush, tub thumping chancer who got found out (NCFC) - Jim, Aug 19, 06:41:11
  - That “kick and rush” performance at Wembley was according to Russell Martin (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Aug 19, 09:27:36
    - Against opponents who, that season, had first hammered us, then completely outthought us (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 19, 09:33:39
      - It was one of the best performances from Norwich ever IMO (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Aug 19, 10:23:24
  - "Kick and rush"? You think we spent the second half of 2014/15 playing "kick and rush"? (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 19, 08:22:12
    - "Once they saw through his complete lack of tactical ability" (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 19, 08:45:34
      - It didn’t really need ripping up though and we didn’t need to consciously put ourselves (NCFC) - Jim, Aug 19, 09:12:15
      - Jim is no more emotionally charged than you (NCFC) - CWC, Aug 19, 09:03:59
        
        To be ho edt I’ve not written it off, I just think our chances of success are lower (NCFC) - Jim, Aug 19, 09:33:53
        
        That's fair. You're right about the short term / long term thing too. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 19, 09:26:36
        
        Vmt (NCFC) - CauldRon, Aug 19, 09:10:08
    - We had some very good players, he put them on the pitch and motivated them (NCFC) - Jim, Aug 19, 08:35:24
  - Us (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Aug 19, 06:41:23
- Meh (NCFC) - Charles21, Aug 19, 00:43:22
  - Distance run per game, 2015/16. Norwich, bottom. And out on our feet by mid-Jan (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 19, 00:51:30
    - I've bigger issues with Neil's recruitment, the fitness thing was a non-story. (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Aug 19, 01:07:04
- It was daft not to appoint a competent manager after Alex (n/m) (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Aug 19, 00:42:33
  - And to give up on the season with almost half of it left (NCFC) - Jim, Aug 19, 06:42:22
    - An over the hill, ludicrously expensive squad, which had had it. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 19, 08:22:59
      - Who was over the hill then apart from Naismith and Jarvis? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Aug 19, 09:36:29
        
        The club captain, a talismanic figure for years, for one. (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 19, 10:01:30
        
        Ignore Jerome from the above list. His record was identical to 2 seasons earlier (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 19, 10:09:28
  - We have a competent one (NCFC) - CWC, Aug 19, 00:49:48
    - Competent would be a manager who has actually managed at a high level before joining (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Aug 19, 01:09:17
      - That is not the definition of competent. (NCFC) - Yarf, Aug 19, 06:58:52
      - I really feel that this (NCFC) - Jim, Aug 19, 06:50:19
        
        I agree with a lot of that....just a few points (NCFC) - Saucerer, Aug 19, 07:25:07
        
        Look I can see positives from the first three games and (NCFC) - Jim, Aug 19, 08:33:04
        
        Not given the wages we were spending and the lack of wealth of the owners (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 19, 08:36:49
        
        I agree with much of that. There's no argument that we should've stuck with Irvine though (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 19, 08:27:43
        
        Weird place, the inside of your head. (NCFC) - Yarf, Aug 19, 07:00:19
        
        Why are you following my posts posting snide sh*t (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Aug 19, 07:15:48
- No it won't (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Aug 19, 00:36:21

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