Goodness me! How unbelievably patronising this sounds!
Firstly, I love Hughton. What a thoroughly nice chap he is. Also I am usually the last poster to want to change a manager. I like us to keep them as long as possible. But with Hughton I was desperate for a change. And I promise you it had nothing to do with the 'breathtaking arrogance of wanting to play sexy football'.
You mentioned the views of pants and USAC. All three of you watch Norwich on the screen rather than live. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it, but watching the matches at CR under Hughton was excruciating. I would watch the clock the whole game. As each five minutes went I would tell myself, phew, that's five minutes and they haven't scored against us. There was nothing else to watch. We never seemed to attack. This was true in the first season when we finished 11th too. It was lovely to see us achieving a few wins against some top teams, but SO stressful hoping we would hang on to that score. We never seemed to be able score more than one goal.
It was such a relief to swap Hughton for Adams (and then Neil and Farke). I didn't care at all that we were no longer in the Premier League. I just loved being able to watch us score goals and have fun again. I have enjoyed our seasons without him. The first season we had the joy of a play off chase and the thrill of a Wembley final. The second season I saw tons of goals scored. This season I have had to be more patient. But I'm optimistic and excited to see what happens. And I like our team again.
Good luck to Brighton and to Hughton but I wouldn't swap with them. Each team has their own history. Things are going well for them at the moment. No doubt they'll have times when things are harder. I do see now what you mean by the 'breathtaking arrogance of fans' though with your sneery last paragraph.
PS Brighton have done well this season so that 'proves' Hughton is a good manager. Stoke were relegated so what does that make Lambert? It strikes me that it's ridiculous to judge a manager based on how they are doing with one team at any one time. There are too many variables.
Posted By: Bravo win or die on May 6th 2018 at 07:36:55
Message Thread
- Hughton (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 6, 01:46:03
- Good effort bigfellar - you've got lots of us going! (n/m) (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, May 6, 12:03:11
- Binary football (n/m) (NCFC) - Gob on a Stick, May 6, 11:32:16
- Hughton is a good manager, but was a bad fit for Norwich at the time (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, May 6, 11:06:48
- You've won the internet for today.. (n/m) (NCFC) - scruffy, May 6, 13:24:05
- Thank you, great read. Elmander! There's another name I'd forgotten! (n/m) (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, May 6, 12:01:17
- Great post— thanks for the more detailed reminders of what a cock up his tenure really was (n/m) (NCFC) - Tressells Broadbrush, May 6, 11:50:29
- That’s an excellent post (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, May 6, 11:40:14
- ... is the right answer ✔️ (n/m) (NCFC) - Worthing Yellow, May 6, 11:39:19
- ^^ If this is wrong I don't want to be right pt3 ^^^ (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, May 6, 11:26:03
- I don't expect anyone to read all of that, but I'm tired of the revisionist history (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, May 6, 11:07:52
- I read it! Great insights. Always enjoy your analytical posts. Cheers (n/m) (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, May 6, 11:18:03
- Live in the now, man (n/m) (NCFC) - CauldRon, May 6, 10:58:28
- 👇👇👇 Hats off to the responses 🎩👆 (n/m) (NCFC) - JD3, May 6, 10:15:54
- Agree in part but that’s footbal. He may have equally brought us to our knees by now. (n/m) (NCFC) - ghost of hucks, May 6, 10:15:08
- The one positive from the Hughton era was that I got to know the people who sit near me at (NCFC) - shortfatb, May 6, 10:00:05
- Agree with others, quite an arrogant tone to this post (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, May 6, 09:46:54
- Spot. Jeffing. On. (n/m) (NCFC) - bobble, May 6, 13:53:26
- Great post maidstoneyellow. The fact that I'd forgotten we had Gutierrez says a lot about (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, May 6, 09:58:41
- Lot's of the players say at the time how much more negative Hughton was compared (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, May 6, 11:29:29
- Shit manager. (NCFC) - bird table, May 6, 09:44:24
- Hoots is a decent man, but the football was soul destroying. (NCFC) - avenging canary, May 6, 09:21:05
- Brighton spent 50+ million on players this season (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, May 6, 09:21:00
- If they have spent £50m, it's not much by current PL standards (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, May 6, 11:25:58
- Yup. People love their prejudices and hang on to them long after they've been (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, May 6, 09:15:05
- Managed to lose v non league Luton (n/m) (NCFC) - Buford T Justice, May 6, 08:58:09
- only parts I can agree with (NCFC) - Tressells Broadbrush, May 6, 08:21:15
- Yes! This is exactly what I feel. (n/m) (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, May 6, 08:30:40
- ^^^ If this is wrong I don't want to be right pt 2 ^^^ (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, May 6, 08:24:04
- Goodness me! How unbelievably patronising this sounds! (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, May 6, 07:36:55
- spot on bwod, what an arrogant post that is. (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 6, 11:38:25
- meant bf, not bgh. (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 6, 11:39:06
- Yes! Yes! Yes! Great post BWOD 😘 (n/m) (NCFC) - Worthing Yellow, May 6, 11:34:15
- Absolutely this. Wish I had written it also (n/m) (NCFC) - WalksietheReturn, May 6, 11:30:02
- Classic post (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, May 6, 11:10:31
- Also, Hughton kept us up in his first season with us. (NCFC) - tim berry, May 6, 10:52:38
- ^^^What she said. (n/m) (NCFC) - bird table, May 6, 09:46:31
- For FUCKS sake! (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 09:40:12
- ^^^ If this is wrong I don't want to be right ^^^ (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, May 6, 07:56:05
- Morning Dandy. Are you enjoying your hols? (n/m) (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, May 6, 08:24:23
- St Pauli, where we is brilliant. (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, May 6, 08:25:38
- Try again... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, May 6, 08:33:54
- Hamburg was really disappointing for me (NCFC) - lurd, May 6, 10:25:22
- A stag do is probably not the best way to discover a new town or city... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, May 6, 10:30:37
- For football try Altona 93, home game at 6.30pm tomorrow... (NCFC) - s10 yellow, May 6, 09:04:25
- That's a brilliant tip. Thanks. Will look into it (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, May 6, 09:13:37
- It sounds fantastic. Any signs of a new Beatles? (n/m) (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, May 6, 08:47:08
- Nope. It's all German hipperty hop now (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, May 6, 08:53:48
- No Tony Sheridan then? (n/m) (NCFC) - Garry Brooke, May 6, 09:17:53
- No. He lies over the ocean (n/m) (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, May 6, 09:21:11
- No Tony Sheridan then? (n/m) (NCFC) - Garry Brooke, May 6, 09:17:53
- Nope. It's all German hipperty hop now (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, May 6, 08:53:48
- Had a bit of banter (NCFC) - Tressells Broadbrush, May 6, 08:45:33
- Interesting. I've not seen that. The refugees welcome, anti-Nazi slogans and... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, May 6, 08:53:12
- Good to hear (NCFC) - Tressells Broadbrush, May 6, 09:17:34
- Yes, Berlin has changed a lot in the last 10 years that we've been going... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, May 6, 09:34:36
- Good to hear (NCFC) - Tressells Broadbrush, May 6, 09:17:34
- Interesting. I've not seen that. The refugees welcome, anti-Nazi slogans and... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, May 6, 08:53:12
- Hamburg was really disappointing for me (NCFC) - lurd, May 6, 10:25:22
- Try again... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, May 6, 08:33:54
- St Pauli, where we is brilliant. (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, May 6, 08:25:38
- Morning Dandy. Are you enjoying your hols? (n/m) (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, May 6, 08:24:23
- spot on bwod, what an arrogant post that is. (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 6, 11:38:25
- Hudds in real trouble now looking at that table. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, May 6, 07:34:15
- Nah (NCFC) - inutero, May 6, 07:20:01
- Let’s see how he goes next season without the promotion momentum (NCFC) - Jim, May 6, 07:19:22
- He's done a very good job at Brighton, for sure. (NCFC) - Azteca, May 6, 07:18:23
- Hughton (NCFC) - Buford T Justice, May 6, 03:23:58
- Lambert's team was being found out second half of that (NCFC) - SeattleSounders, May 6, 05:12:53
- Bullshit revisionist history (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, May 6, 11:11:08
- Agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, May 6, 09:17:08
- No way, I saw so many games in Hughton's relegation (NCFC) - finkleton, May 6, 07:17:56
- Except we won more points in 2nd half of season (NCFC) - earlydoors, May 6, 07:17:22
- Well you know, some people can't deal with facts (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, May 6, 11:20:21
- Lambert's team was being found out second half of that (NCFC) - SeattleSounders, May 6, 05:12:53
- Few points (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 6, 03:19:13
- Oh and we were far better last 5 games with Neil Adams (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 6, 03:24:00
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