I think the situation is more nuanced

The difficulty with Wes is that when he doesn't play regularly and is reduced to short sub appearances his form suffers so it becomes self fulfilling. At the start of the season he was playing well and generally when he has started games he has played well so had he started more games I think that the view that he is a bit passed it would be less generally accepted. Although i think he will probably go abroad, I would not be at all surprised if he had a stellar season next season were he to go to another champ club.

In my view, he has always been a player who has played far better when starting games so this role of substitute making cameo appearances doesn't really suit him. He sometimes struggles to pick up the pace of the game when coming on as a sub for short stints whereas when he starts he gets on the ball and dictates the tempo.

I completely accept the argument that madders needed to start and indeed by playing regularly Madders has developed as a player and has also developed into a massively valuable asset for the club so you can argue that vindicates Farke in terms of what he has done. I would though question whether we needed Leitner (although I think he looks good and hope he stays if Madders goes) and indeed earlier in the season selecting the likes of Vrancic or Watkins ahead of Wes. Its been pretty obvious to me that for the last two seasons we should have been interchanging Wes and Maddison to manage the workload of both of them. As it is we didn;t play Maddison enough last season and we've not played Wes enough this season.

Farke says the right things about Wes etc but his actions betray his words to a degree.

For a side who started the season with Hoolahan, Maddison and Pritchard as attacking midfield options our creativity level and goal return has been absolutely appalling. Hard to think of three better playmakers at this level.

Posted By: Jim on April 25th 2018 at 09:33:21

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So, in the final year of his contract we have barely used one of our greatest ever players (NCFC) - Nelsons final flanel, Apr 25, 07:19:54
- Because he WAS great but isn't any more. Simples. (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 25, 09:11:05
  - Shut your cunt mouth (n/m) (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Apr 25, 12:16:43
  - I think the situation is more nuanced (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 25, 09:33:21
    - Good post Jim - the other factor is that he's not at his best when playing too deep (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 25, 12:17:30
    - Good post Jim. I agree that Wes could have been the answer to easing JM's workload. (NCFC) - norway, Apr 25, 09:46:10
      - There's no beef just Farke is doing what pretty much every other manager has done (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 25, 09:58:15
        
        I *really* hope we can do something with Tettey (NCFC) - norway, Apr 25, 10:14:52
        
        I'm just wondering with Godfrey and hopefully Louis Thompson back from Injury next season (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Apr 25, 10:29:43
        
        They shouldn't do as this season has shown we are 1 short in that area and (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 25, 11:08:50
        
        Sadly I fear Thompson is another Matt Jarvis (n/m) (NCFC) - Saucerer, Apr 25, 19:27:58
        
        Or ever nasty injury (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Apr 25, 11:20:18
    - Tbf when Pritchard was fit and starting games ... (NCFC) - loz, Apr 25, 09:36:52
  - Last years POTS still looked pretty good to me the few times I saw him live this season (n/m) (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Apr 25, 09:25:45
    - He wasn’t our best player last year, it was a thank you vote. (n/m) (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Apr 25, 10:56:57
      - That is a matter of opinion. What is fact is he won the Barry Butler trophy (n/m) (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Apr 25, 12:03:35
      - Nonsense (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 25, 11:49:40
- Clueless manager (n/m) (NCFC) - thirsty work, Apr 25, 08:24:31
- Save on bonus payments (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 25, 08:01:15
- Webberlution hintut (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Apr 25, 07:47:11
  - Fuck’s sake. (NCFC) - APB, Apr 25, 09:03:23
    - Kerching ✔️ (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Man, Apr 25, 12:38:00
    - Leicester won the league with 43% average possesion (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Apr 25, 12:27:03
      - I know. Leicester are something of an anomaly / statistical outlier though. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Apr 25, 14:41:56
    - This is an excellent post. (NCFC) - norway, Apr 25, 10:45:43
      - “no-one claims any kind of “morally superior” football” (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 25, 11:24:58
        
        I’ve never said that. Either of those things. (NCFC) - APB, Apr 25, 14:47:25
        
        Exactly. 😝 (n/m) (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Apr 25, 12:15:49
    - Jackpot. (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 25, 09:56:07
    - "if you want hoof ball then i'm out of here" - Stuart Webber. (n/m) (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Apr 25, 09:04:53
      - ... (NCFC) - CB41, Apr 25, 10:21:48
      - So would most of us be. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Apr 25, 09:06:19
        
        "You don't win friends with salad" - H. Simpson (n/m) (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Apr 25, 12:31:00
- Madderz . (n/m) (NCFC) - avenging canary, Apr 25, 07:46:51

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